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Old 3rd September, 2007, 09:35 AM
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MS Evil swells to engulf ISO!

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Monday, 03 September 2007

"If Microsoft succeeds (which is beginning to look likely) they will have not merely damaged the prospects of open-source software, they will have ruined the good name of ISO by corrupting its people and processes."

Eric Raymond says he's just about had it with Microsoft
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Subverting ISO while asking for OSI certification
By Egan Orion: Monday 03 September 2007, 11:23

ERIC RAYMOND writes in his bog that his "resolve to treat Microsoft like any other license submitter is being sorely tested."

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I've been following this whole sordid mess for the last few days.

No matter how this comes out, MS wins. If their OOXML standard is approved, they win. Regardless of whether the standard is approved or not, the ISO's credibility has been severely tarnished by this, so MS still wins.

Edit: The more I think about this, the more I think that just as soon as I can make a living writing non-windows software, I'm going to stop having anything whatsoever to do with Microsoft and its products.
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They want to own our children, literally. Then they want to abuse them.
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How much would they spend to corrupt Fedora?
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How greedy must greed be? Give us a flippin' break, Billy.
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Oh Happy day!
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How greedy must greed be? Give us a flippin' break, Billy.
Human beings are greedy by nature. It's a survival characteristic. For most of us, there are practical limitations to our greed. Remove those limitations, though, and you get something like this......
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I would say that we tend to be greedy just as we tend to be generous.
We go either way depending on how we see our world... greed really doesn't see much at all...it just doesn't grasp the inner-connectedness of life, nor alas, the whole re-cycling concept...you know, like we are going to die...

"Hold on tight there Bill! Don't let it slip from you now!" LOL
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Shouldn't a standard be open to anyone - to freely implement?

Therefore nothing of MS's could ever be a standard.

Fortunately I'm having less, and less to do with MS
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I would have thought BULLmer, rather than Billy, would be the prime suspect in underhand moves like this. Given that Bill takes a back seat now.

I hope they keep it up, will only blow-up in their faces eventually.
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Ma Bell was once Queen of the May. How many of our younger members even know what Ma Bell was today? Bill to shall pass, the smell should be a dead give away when it happens...":O}
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Bill to shall pass, the smell should be a dead give away when it happens...":O}
Yes, but it took the Federal Government stepping in and breaking it up to make it happen.....
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Old 5th September, 2007, 03:47 PM
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They lost by quite a margin:
What Microsoft's ISO loss on OOXML means

Despite that MS still came out with:

"Strong Global Support for Open XML as It Enters Final Phase of ISO Standards Process."

The final phase being no thanks!
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World view, they fell face first in it!
MS View: "Hey it tastes pretty good!"
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