The earth is flat I tells ya... FLAT!

[BigRed]

I was just sent this gem from someone The flat earth society!
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djubl...rthsociety.htm
You gotta love their "Scientific" explanitions

Edit: and heres an interview with the guy!
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/fe-scidi.htm

[BigRed]

haha I revised my sig with a few things from that site :-D

[dod]

LOL. I liked this quote

-----After spending over sixteen million dollars and using over 48 thousand yards of industrial strength strapping tape, we of the Flat Earth Society were able to construct an enormously powerful neurotransmitter that can implant suggestions directly into the brains of the nearby non-Flat Earthers. Having set it up just outside of the Russian Antarctic exploration post (Vostok), we are awaiting word that all three scientists and 174 penguins have been shown the light.

With that powerful transmitter is this what the penguins look like now?

[David Shh!]

1st link not working

[Sideburns]

Jesus Christ, there arguement is so bl00dy lame.

"What keeps our person at the South Pole from falling completely off the face of the globe?"

Have any of them even studied A-level physics, Jesus, they have obviously just read a few text books and tried to apply comment sense based to create some flawed examples, What keeps our person at the South Pole from falling completely off the face of the globe?? errm could that be the force of gravity acting on two masses, regardless of orientation

Dumbass's. this has got to be a joke

Sorry to be so angry, but i really hate stupid comments that undermine real research, plz say this is a joke

[Random Nonsense]

Im pretty sure thats a joke

Note on the membership form "favorite historical person" and the options are rasputin, napoleon bonapart, tony blair and atilla the hun!

[David Shh!]

There are some people out there, occupying our reality yet somehow oblivious to it. Perhaps at the edge of the flat earth is a (2-dimensional) wormhole that scoops people up and deposits them 24,000 miles away and, at the same time, no distance away at all.

A level physics? I knew about gravity the 1st time I tried to move, aged about 1 minute. It's what makes the young, the old, the drunk, and the stoned fall over - usually in the direction of down!

Their "point" alludes to the centre of gravity not being the centre of our nearly-roughly-spherical planet but the layer below of it, where another plane (plane, planet - perhaps it's all just a typo?) exists. This is what you would fall into if the teleporter didn't stop you falling off the edge, past the elephants, onto the turtle that crawls through the infinitesimal space...

Oops - space is actually quite small, according to the diagram. We could build a bridge to reach the edge of space where, presumaby, we would find... erm... God? The the universie is but a plaything on the mantlepiece of a house inside my imagination? Another multiverse? The Mobius?

How about time-lag? If the edge of the world is, say, in the middle of London (why not Greenwich?), then the Eastenders will be 24,000 miles away from the west enders. How come there is a delay between London and Japan / USA, but not between W1 and E1? What about light? What about the curvature of everything? Vanishing point on the horizon? All of this is very funny in Pratchett's Discworld, but, come on guys! I don't believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, The Tooth Fairy, Goblins, Pixies, Elves, Peter Pan, Dr Who or the Bogeyman, either!

I think it's not a joke. See also the Moonies, L Ron Hubbard (we're all aliens!), and the Adam Smith Institute: people will take metaphor, simile, simplification, and analogy as literal, and, presumably, also think "literally" equates to "metaphorically".

Their princiapl justification comes from the Bible. Now, without wishing to offend religious people, I think most would agree that the original scrolls have been translated & edited a fair few times to be readable, acceptable, politically correct, and to justify whatever politics was going on at the time. Note that both sides of the Battle of Hastings saw Hayley's Comet and interpreterd it as a sign of God's support for their Holy War.

Further, the Bible can only cope with numbers as big as 40. This is widely held to be based on exceptionally naive translations of Ancient Hebrew, where the word for 40 also means "many" and also means a goat. Ancient Hebrew does not translate well, particularly if the reader doesn't understand the subtleties of written & spoken phrases & sentences, and all the more if the readership is, say, sometime before the age of enlightenment, the renaissance, and long, long before most people could even read or write their own name.

Don't want to bang on too long, but only evangelists take the bible as absolutely God's word, literal throughout, and deny that the various editions (edit-ions) are, erm, edits. Evangelists have no sense of humour, naturally, as they cannot conceptualise the essence of a pun, anticlimax, or the fact that some words may (sic) mean (sic) more than one (sic) thing!

How many evangelists to change a light bulb? One.

How many evangelists to change a light bulb? One.

How many evangelists to change a light bulb? One.

How many evangelists to change a light bulb? One.

How many evangelists to change a light bulb? One.

See? Not funny!

Albert Einstein:
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen

[stigweed]

Originally posted by David Shh!

A level physics? I knew about gravity the 1st time I tried to move, aged about 1 minute. It's what makes the young, the old, the drunk, and the stoned fall over - usually in the direction of down!

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I've known some interesting cases of people falling UPWARDS. Usually up stairs and so on...

[loop]

never laughed so hard in my life. If you feeling low, read that, you'll feel great again

[David Shh!]

Stigweed - I said usually
Loop - maybe they all took your sig advice
PornoMonkey - See Thorstein Veblen (1857-1929): "The outcome of any serious research can only be to make two questions grow where only one grew before"

[cloasters]

The pictures of the Earth taken from the return trips of moon landing's... hard to argue with the pics.

Another thing contrary to the Flat Earth weirdo's: If you stand on a beach, with a wide view of the ocean the horizon is slightly curved, in manner indicating that we're on round ground. Or maybe that's the astigmatism!

I don't think that the Flat Earth Society take themselves seriously. Some guy 1500? years ago took measurements of the surface of our planet. He used geometry to prove that the Earth is round. End of controversy.

[BigRed]

Originally posted by cloasters
The pictures of the Earth taken from the return trips of moon landing's... hard to argue with the pics.

Another thing contrary to the Flat Earth weirdo's: If you stand on a beach, with a wide view of the ocean the horizon is slightly curved, in manner indicating that we're on round ground. Or maybe that's the astigmatism!

I don't think that the Flat Earth Society take themselves seriously. Some guy 1500? years ago took measurements of the surface of our planet. He used geometry to prove that the Earth is round. End of controversy.

According to the flat earth society all the space missions are hoaxes to make us beleive the earth is round. They also say any "scientist" who proved that the earth is round is a quack

I love stupid people, doesnt everyone else?

[Áedán]

Lets get this straight.

Describing the Earth as flat or spherical makes no sense. That assumes that the Earth only occupies 3 dimensions. Any human being should be able to spot that the Earth occupies at least 4 dimensions. If things are as suspected, then the Earth may occupy as many as 10 dimensions, at which point describing it as flat of spherical is a bit silly.

Áedán

[Random Nonsense]

Ill ask on everyone elses behalf "what are these further 6 dimensions?"

I get the 1st 3 + time, so what are the others?

[stigweed]

They need the others to explain things like the universe being made up of tangled up stringy bits in as many as 11 dimensions. It was on horizon once but I didn't understand it. To do with the goal of combining relativity with quantum theory to make the grand unified theory of everything. Don't get how they can think in 11 dimensions let alone explain EVERYTHING using them but hey.

[Áedán]

Originally posted by Random Nonsense
Ill ask on everyone elses behalf "what are these further 6 dimensions?"
I get the 1st 3 + time, so what are the others?

Don't ask.. You really don't want to know.

However, a question for you. What kind of spin does the graviton (quantum particle that carries gravitational force) have?

I guess it could be worse. We could be dealing with ghost particles too!

Áedán

[Áedán]

Originally posted by stigweed
They need the others to explain things like the universe being made up of tangled up stringy bits in as many as 11 dimensions.

10 Dimensions if you want supersymmetry.

Unless you really like holding onto the bosonic string theory - that needs some 26 dimensions.

Fortunately for most people, it's possible to compact all of those extra 6 dimensions into a very small space indeed. Due to all the wonderful wacky ways that the universe interacts, it might even be possible to tunnel a particle through a short distance in those extra 6 dimensions in order to travel a long distance in the 4 we recognise.

Áedán

[stigweed]

distance travelled in the 4th dimension too? time travel? clearly you know ur stuff. Like I said all I know is what I saw about string theory on Horizon well over a year ago. Simple quantum theory at AS Level was bad enough last yr. Tho my physics teacher did keep going on about how every time we walk through a doorway we are refracted a bit but cos all the paths are so close together we stay pretty much as one and dont refract into two copies of ourselves.

[Rackne]

Originally posted by Áedán


10 Dimensions if you want supersymmetry.

Unless you really like holding onto the bosonic string theory - that needs some 26 dimensions.

etc etc

Áedán

You're quite scary at times.

Brilliant.

But scary.

(Why aren't there more of you? I want one. )