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Phil · #21 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 04:16 PM

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Well said Kat(that's what I've been trying to say), now as soon as beat my cookie out of Allan I'll give it to you as a reward . . . .

Now now children share

kat · #22 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 04:20 PM

most of us are on the same page...but for the few that are not , I feel there opinions will change in the next few day as the bin Laden network begins to retaliate already one bombing forgot the location 1 American killed several wounded

just don't smash the cookie Jeff

Phil · #23 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 04:23 PM

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just don't smash the cookie Jeff

Good point, but if the cookies gonna be eaten by the person that stole it any way then surely it's worth smashing it trying to get it back?

Nix · #24 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 04:27 PM

America is for the first time in history in a lose lose situation. If we do nothing we are weak. If and now that we have done what personaly I think we should have done, we are in a situation of wartime where anything goes. You never know who will takes who's side, this could be nasty. I have one more point I like to make, we never should have played "world poice" that is about the only way the U.S. hase made enimies for the last 15-20 years. If we would keep to our own issues I think our country could have prospered more with less aggivation to the world, to late now. Now we have at least one country breed and brought up to hate americans that belive if they die to take one of our lives, thay will be saved, by thier "god". Bad, Bad, Bad

Phil · #25 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 04:31 PM

Yes but these terrorists are not rational people, they are evil people and if they didn't hate america for it's peace makers then it would be for the lack of them.

Phiber · #26 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 04:36 PM

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Yes but these terrorists are not rational people, they are evil people and if they didn't hate america for it's peace makers then it would be for the lack of them.

thats true but we will still lick them dead

kat · #27 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 04:41 PM

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America is for the first time in history in a lose lose situation

I believe that it is a lose win situation if we sit on our butts we lose if we kick bin Laden and his followers butts the world wins

Phil · #28 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 04:56 PM

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I believe that it is a lose win situation if we sit on our butts we lose if we kick bin Laden and his followers butts the world wins

but it's gonna mean a war, I think it's necessary but still unpleasant.

Phiber · #29 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 04:57 PM

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but it's gonna mean a war, I think it's necessary but still unpleasant.

dont u think crashing airplanes into skyscrapers is unpleasant?
i do they get unpleasant crap back at them

Phil · #30 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 05:02 PM

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dont u think crashing airplanes into skyscrapers is unpleasant?
i do they get unpleasant crap back at them

I think you miss understood me there a bit, I'm not fussed about what they do to the taliban and ladens possie as they deserve everything thats coming to them, but it's inevitable that people who are innocent are going to be in someway harmed, either with allied forces and their families, and the situation thats already arrising with refugees. War time is not pleasant for anyone but I feel it is something that is necessay as terrorism has been aloud to fester for too long.

Phiber · #31 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 05:18 PM

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I think you miss understood me there a bit, I'm not fussed about what they do to the taliban and ladens possie as they deserve everything thats coming to them, but it's inevitable that people who are innocent are going to be in someway harmed, either with allied forces and their families, and the situation thats already arrising with refugees. War time is not pleasant for anyone but I feel it is something that is necessay as terrorism has been aloud to fester for too long.

well the point of the terrorists was to blow up the WTC
its not like they cared about innocent people
i couldve died there also

Phil · #32 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 05:28 PM

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well the point of the terrorists was to blow up the WTC
its not like they cared about innocent people
i couldve died there also

Actually in their eyes they weren't innocent people, they considered them to be responsable for the actions of the united states if only for just standing by whilest the us government does the things that they considered wrong, so if we willingly kill people who we do consider innocent to acheive our goals then we are at least as bad as them, perhaps worse.
These events have devastated many innocent peoples lives, unfortunataly this is the price to pay if we are going to put an end to these terror based regimes.

Superman · #33 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by Nix
I have one more point I like to make, we never should have played "world poice" that is about the only way the U.S. hase made enimies for the last 15-20 years. If we would keep to our own issues I think our country could have prospered more with less aggivation to the world, to late now.

You're right, we could've chosen not to police the world. But who knows, perhaps if we hadn't chosen to be the policeman the Taliban would've decided to. Then right now all the woman would be covered head to toe and not allowed to do anything and everybody would be forced to practice Islam or die. Then they'd police the world to ensure that a democracy wouldn't sprout up.

Daniel ~ · #34 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 06:17 PM

I watched my friends go to Vietnam, I protested that war with great bitterness, and still hate those who sent my friends to die. May they rot in hell.

I think George 1 and 2 are the most mediocre presidents the American people has placed in office since we elected a senile president, Reagan.

But I have to say I think the world coalition is doing everything I would do were I in power. The dead of over 400 nations are mixed in the ruble of the trade center. More to come has be promised.

Were we to do nothing we would just be targets that don't hit back.

The Telban is a puppet government renounced (for political reasons) by Pakistan who gave them power. They are comprised of the cowards who fled Afghanistan when warriors remained to fight the Russian invaders.
Once the Russians withdrew they were sent back in to destabilize the Afghanistan government then forming.

Much harm an little good may come from our actions. But as I see it, we have zero choice but to act. We can only hope that once our , the worlds, objectives are archived we will help the Afghanistan people create a nation worthy of the name. Only if we build upon what we are about to destroy will there EVER be an end to the terror.

This are my thoughts, not by any means the last word.
I share them with you. Accept them or decline as you feel you must.
So long as mutual respect and courtesy prevail among those who post here this thread will remain open and ALL points of view will be welcome.

Nix · #35 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 07:15 PM

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I believe that it is a lose win situation if we sit on our butts we lose if we kick bin Laden and his followers butts the world wins

I think we need to consider our enemy. They have no problem with trading there lives for ours. Think at the going ratio 0f 4 people on board a plane to 5,000 of our people dead this is not a good. The lives lost in this war is what I think makes it a lose, lose.

kat · #36 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 07:24 PM

I agree the loss of life will be a bitter pill to swallow...but the end results will be appreciated by our children and grand children..I for one am more concerned with them then my own feelings towards death

Phil · #37 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 07:25 PM

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Originally posted by Nix

I think we need to consider our enemy. They have no problem with trading there lives for ours. Think at the going ratio 0f 4 people on board a plane to 5,000 of our people dead this is not a good. The lives lost in this war is what I think makes it a lose, lose.

Well I don't think comparing losses is a good way to decide who wins.
No amount of losses on the enemys part can go to serve as justice for what was done in NY and Washington. But hopefully we can prevent future terrorist attacks by making the people responsable and their sympothiser pay for it.
We may already have lost 5000+ lifes, but we can still save many more.

Daniel ~ · #38 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 07:45 PM

Well said Phil.

kat · #39 (**permalink**) 7th October, 2001, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by Phil

Well I don't think comparing losses is a good way to decide who wins.
No amount of losses on the enemys part can go to serve as justice for what was done in NY and Washington. But hopefully we can prevent future terrorist attacks by making the people responsable and their sympothiser pay for it.
We may already have lost 5000+ lifes, but we can still save many more.

seems like a good plan to me.. kill one of them ,to save ten of our own