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Old 1st October, 2007, 11:27 AM
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Hi Strongwolf
download AMD64 info
http://avala.yubc.net/~lukija/A64Info-beta.exe
and see what the max Async Latency and read preamble are
Slackening is raising the time eg moving MAL from 8ns to 10ns.
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Thanks that was very helpful. Now to play around with it.
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Heh, this is too funny. Both combatants with exactly the same weapon. Smiffy do you have any more secret weapons?

NECO v. SW armed with Max Async Latency and Read Preamble Time

Kinda like Mortal Kombat. Be careful that you don't blow each other up.
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question for ThunderRd. is SMP used for folding one client with two (both)
cores of a single cpu? will that alone make it fold faster? currently getting
100+ ppd per core @ 50%. nearly the same with my single cores.
I really want to put 3-6 dual core AM2. I have a bunch of DDR and NO DDR2
so 939 will be the least expensive for me to build. if SMP will make a big
difference in folding with dual core, I'm in.

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Heh, this is too funny. Both combatants with exactly the same weapon. Smiffy do you have any more secret weapons?

NECO v. SW armed with Max Async Latency and Read Preamble Time

Kinda like Mortal Kombat. Be careful that you don't blow each other up.

Smiffy info/tool was intended for me. Some people just want to win at any price.
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question for ThunderRd. is SMP used for folding one client wit two (both)
cores of a single cpu? will that alone make it fold faster? currently getting
100+ ppd per core @ 50%.
I'm not exactly sure I understand the question. Are you now running the SMP client? If you are there is something dramatically wrong. Of course I don't know what your gear is, but you should be using 100% CPU on a dual core machine, and you should be getting somewhere in the neighborhood of 800 ppd...that's 400 per core. My pentium D's and opterons get between 850-1050 ppd, depending on the WU.

If I understand you correctly, you are running two instances of the normal client...that would yield about what you are saying. Yes, one SMP client for both cores. It was developed for quads, but works fairly well on duals to sync the cores and calculate faster. Go to the SMP and you will increase your production 4-5 times. Do your homework before trying it out, though. I'll help you however I can.
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yes, running standard FAH client(s). one per core. I will get to know more
before trying it out. the increase in production would be welcomed. I will
hang around the SMP thread for a while.

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Smiffy info/tool was intended for me. Some people just want to win at any price.
Muahahaha Releases the hounds !!!!!!


I have an idea!!!:roll ing:
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Uh-oh. An idea. That sounds dangerous.
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yes, running standard FAH client(s). one per core. I will get to know more
before trying it out. the increase in production would be welcomed. I will
hang around the SMP thread for a while.

Thanks
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Muahahaha Releases the hounds !!!!!!


I have an idea!!!:roll ing:

So, there are some neurons alive yet!!!
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So, there are some neurons alive yet!!!
Nah those are not needed for this plan

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Ran in to troubles again with SMP and Wolf3. I will write it exactly how it appears:

"MPI CH2 Process Manager Argone National Lab removed
MPI CH2 Process Manager Argone National Lab installed but fail to start.
The service did not respond to the start or control request in a timely fashion (error 1053).

account <domain\user> [WOLF3\Juan]"

From that point on I have try various combinations and nada. 3 or four lines explainnig the error that finish something like "the machine actively refuse it" or something.

Installed net 2.0 and have password. I have uninstall/reinstall a couple of times. Where or when I run 'install.bat'. I know is in the DOS install file, but where/when????



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It would help if I knew how the message came up. Were you starting the client, shutting it down, or was it crunching at the time? What else were you doing at the time? Was this machine already running the client, and did it upload a finished WU already? In other words, was it a properly installed client at some point? Are you overclocking the box? If so, how much? Is the client running as service? A peek at the fahlog in the install directory would also be helpful.

In the absence of that info, I can only recommend to try this:

Close the client, and all instances of mpiexec and fahcore with task manager. Go into the installation directory and find a file called install.bat. Run it. You will see some messages about installing and/or removing MPI. Enter your username [wolf3/juan] and then enter your password two times when prompted.

After that you will see something like "If you see this twice, MPI is working."

If that happens, you should be good to go. Start the client and see what happens. If it doesn't start right away, be patient. Shut down mpi and the cores. Wait a minute, and start the client again. Remember what I told you in an earlier post; sometimes you have to do this a few times when there has been a problem.

If this doesn't work, uninstall the client through add/remove, reboot your machine, delete the installation directory and reinstall. After reinstalling, run the install.bat program again, and try to light up the client. It should start and reach out to an assignment server for the core and a WU.

If none of this works, post again.

Or punt.
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Both cores engaged succesfully @ 100%

This is a new build, first time with client/F@H. O/C @2.45

You save my butt again. Thanks!
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SMP is not working again. I deal with it later, not felling to well.
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