1. the 8800GT has 112 shaders (streamprocessors) the 9600GT only 64
2. I have a factory overclocked card (700/1700/1000 - core/shader/mem)
3. both of us overclocked the shaders, I reached the maximum at 1850MHz, I think ThunderRds 9600GT has only a few MHz more - 50 or 100MHz
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