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Old 6th December, 2005, 01:48 PM
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Is It Wise To Upgrade Now?

Im thinking about upgrading (system is only 12 months old and still covered by warranty for 2 more years). I would be selling my current system completely as is, and starting again, what do you think I could get for my current system? What im thinking about buying is listed below.

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-AMD Opteron 146 S939
-DFI LANPARTY NF4 ULTRA-D
-2x 512mb OCZ Dual Channel Gold
-Seagate 7200.8 300gb SATA drive
-Liteon 1635S
-XFX 6600GT 256mb
-Antec NeoHE 430watt
-Enlight Standard Black Case
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Old 6th December, 2005, 02:22 PM
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It would probably be better if you saved up fot a 6800GT, they offer 16pixel pipelines and are much more future proof than a 6600GT. I'm sure the other guys here at AOA forums can help you out with the other pieces of hardware you've listed.
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Old 6th December, 2005, 02:23 PM
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Could you not just swap out the Processor and Mobo (possibly the graphics card if budget allows)???
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Old 6th December, 2005, 10:11 PM
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no svae up for the 6800 GS even better and $20 cheaper.
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Old 6th December, 2005, 10:13 PM
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You may want to change the MB to something like Epox (due to stability, and its cheaper)
May want to change the RAM to GSkill or Patriot - even though OCZ is a great overclocker so are GSkill and Patriot, and they are cheaper.

With the added money saved there you should be able to splash out on the 6800GT instead of the 6600GT.

You may want to talk to dsio and those who know where to get stuff in the Aussie markets.
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Save yourself a headche and make the jump to PIC-E. AGP is slowly getting phased out.
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Old 6th December, 2005, 10:44 PM
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Change your mobo, get a new PCI-E card (X800GTO me thinks, cheap and fast) and 1GB ram.
By the time SM3 is made use of, both the 6600GT and X800GTO will not be able to play games well enough anyway, so using SM3 as the decision-maker is irrelevant. Therefore, it makes sense to get the faster, and unlockable, X800GTO.
I would get an SLI motherboard, simply because it gives you the option. I'd also get 1.5 GB of ram.
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Old 6th December, 2005, 11:27 PM
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Im going complete new system. It will be PCI Express. If I get enough for selling my old system, I will get a 6800GT.

My other question is: How much could I sell my other system for? There are photo on page 30 or 31 of Case Mod Gallery.
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Judging by the specs...I'm gonna say take anything over $550 maybe. Unless you really find somebody whose not that knowledgable (no disrespect) then go for maybe 600+..but dont push it.

Now that I think of it...Its better than a Dell. So go to their site, and compare thye closest thing to their systems, then give it a go at that price.

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Here's a prime example: http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=19&l=en&s=dhs

(sorry about the long link) But if THAT thing is going for $699, shoot for that.
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Old 7th December, 2005, 02:02 AM
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Im going complete new system. It will be PCI Express. If I get enough for selling my old system, I will get a 6800GT.
Noooo get a 6800 GS it's better and cheaper does no one listen to me !!!???
A link to your PC would be helpful.
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Old 7th December, 2005, 02:04 AM
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GS is 12 Pipelines vs the 16 of the GT.
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Old 7th December, 2005, 02:05 AM
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Here's the thing bud. A 6800gs has 12 Pixel pipelines @ 425/1000-reference
The 6800gt has 16pipes @ 350/1000 The fact is <--- card can be pushed a little father..and demonstrate better preformance for a few $$ more.
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Old 7th December, 2005, 02:08 AM
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Most GT's tend to hit 425 without too issues.

For those dead set against overclocking, I can see the point, but for everyone else, I would advise otherwise.

At 425, I doubt that the GS has much headroom for overclocking.
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the GS can be pushed further and the pipes were made more effeicent. I have a GT and I've useda GS he GS provides better preforamce despite the less ppelines. GS is also 485MHz if you buy a pre OC'ed xfx.
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never underestimate xfx:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150118
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The pipelines were made more efficient? I think you'll find the are speedbinned due to defective pipelines or excess stock. If someone can't correct me otherwise, please do. My knowledge on nVidia's product line is lacking.
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Old 7th December, 2005, 02:14 AM
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I was under the impression that they had slightly tweaked pipelines and made them able to handle more per pipe then the 6800 GT? I could and probley am wrong.
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Old 7th December, 2005, 02:16 AM
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The core is NV40. There does not appear to be any revisions on it. Just a locked/defective quad of pipes.
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the 512mb 7800 GTX is still considered a G70 but the design was tweaked over the orginal. It's that same with the GS.
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Although it's G70, it's a second revision of it.

I don't believe the GS has a had a core revision, simply excess stock from higher 6800's. cleared to make way for 7800's.
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