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Old 10th November, 2001, 12:28 PM
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I just had an idea! would it be possible to Unsolder the in socket thermister on my 8KHA+ and solder on the wires to a senfu thermal sensor? or would it not work, i reckon it wont but wanna make sure
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hmm..it may work, but don't you really want the monitor to probe the cpu core?
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thats what im, planning..... the wires should be able to go under the socket, up and around and have the probe against the core! this way i can trust MBM5 to show true temps!
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It'll only work if the sensors are both the same type. If one's a thermistor, and one's a transistor, then it won't work. If they've both thermistors, but have different temperature co-efficents, then it won't work.

Cross your fingers and hope!

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hmmmmmmmmmm i will take a look at the thermister in the socket of my mobo... i may be able to fit it between HS and the CPU package up against the core........ then i could lead wires under the socket and solder em on
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Some mbs have extra thermister sockets.I use mine just under cpu.
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I suggest you refer to the following document if you wish to acurately monitor the CPU temperature.

http://www2.amd.com/us-en/assets/con...docs/24228.pdf
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Thank you for posting that link, dimm - as it happens I was wondering where to mount my new thermocouple setup

The previous revision wanted holes drilled into the heatsink, which was impractical for many modern designs.
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dimm i know about what AMD say to do....... but that MUST make it run a little hotter....... i think on the side of the core gives me a good enough reading...
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I just play it safe and add 10C to whatever it says.
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dimm i know about what AMD say to do....... but that MUST make it run a little hotter....... i think on the side of the core gives me a good enough reading...
It depends on how thick the base is, but yes the drilled thermister cavity method can impare cooling. When I perform "real-world-non-simulated" wetsink tests in my lab, I do it in two slightly differing ways. I drill the hole to the center of the die in one waterblock, and drill the hole to the edge of the die in a second identicle waterblock, and collect data with both parts. Then I run the tests again to ensure repeatable results(and a third time often).
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thats what im, planning..... the wires should be able to go under the socket, up and around and have the probe against the core! this way i can trust MBM5 to show true temps!

I doubt that you would get TRUE temps. The reason why, thermistors read a resistance. If the temps go up the resistance goes down. If you add MORE wire to it your adding more resistance, thus throwing off the calibration.


Though I don't know if the few ohms that you do add will count that much.


Well that's how it works.

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