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Old 17th September, 2007, 05:17 PM
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Vista attacked by 13-year-old virus

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Old 17th September, 2007, 06:03 PM
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What's worse than a Virus? Having MS declare your OS "Unsupported".... then making sure it is!
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Old 17th September, 2007, 07:28 PM
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I think this is great. "The most secure OS ever. You do not even need an anti virus" That way you will not know that your PC is being nibbled to death by decade old code.
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Old 17th September, 2007, 07:44 PM
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I can't entirely blame MS here, Who knew anyone would buy Vista?
(I think I might be enjoying this to much) ":O}
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What does Vista has to do with a boot virus. Why is Linux or any OS versions any better? It could have been windows 2000 for all I know.
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Old 17th September, 2007, 08:52 PM
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MS claimed that Vista was uber secure. So secure in fact, that you would not need an AV. That is why this is sooooo funny.

In trying to make it so secure, they forgot the basics. Maybe it is time for all the virus script kiddies to digg through their goody bag and see how many old skool viruses will get in.
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Old 17th September, 2007, 08:59 PM
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Only a child would think Vista is Virus prof. Is childish to say "well Vista is a week OS because the HDD's where it was installed had a boot virus." Vista will grow even if it's just a baby now
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What does Vista has to do with a boot virus. Why is Linux or any OS versions any better? It could have been windows 2000 for all I know.
except...it wasn't.":O}
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Only a child would think Vista is Virus prof. Is childish to say "well Vista is a week OS because the HDD's where it was installed had a boot virus." Vista will grow even if it's just a baby now
Hey! We DIDN"T Say it! Your OS did! ":O}

and...some babies get thrown out with the bathwater...KILL IT BEFORE IT GROWS! ":O}
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Only a child would think Vista is Virus prof. Is childish to say "well Vista is a week OS because the HDD's where it was installed had a boot virus." Vista will grow even if it's just a baby now
It still had to get past the OS and the AV.
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Old 17th September, 2007, 09:24 PM
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Say, your not going to blame us when Vista dies are you? ":O}
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It will be your fault Daniel. He will say that you did not warn him...LOL
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Haha just because it's not now it doesn't mean it wasn't ever. 2000 was target for many viruses and exploits. When Linux or whatever OS becomes interesting enough there will be plenty of viruses for it.
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Old 17th September, 2007, 09:29 PM
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But again. Bill said it was fool proof. I didn't, he did. That is what makes this so good.
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Haha just because it's not now it doesn't mean it wasn't ever. 2000 was target for many viruses and exploits. When Linux or whatever OS becomes interesting enough there will be plenty of viruses for it.
No doubt about it, your right. Which is why users of my OS are advised to use Anti Virus, Anti Spyware and Anti-spam...Where as Your OS feeds you to the dogs to make claims that just aren't so.

AND MY NEW OS is free and free of virus, no matter what the reason, and yours is not.":O}
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Hahahaha you guys make me laugh youre funny. Hahaha Daniel Vista is not a little baby alien. Vista and Crysis will rox your smelly sox off
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"Discovered: January 5, 1994
Updated: September 17, 2007 1:43:50 PM
Type: Virus
Systems Affected: Windows 2000, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Me, Windows NT, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows XP

Stoned.Angelina is a boot virus that infects the DOS boot sector of floppy disks and the master boot record (MBR) of hard disks. "


Stoned.Angelina - Symantec.com

This boot virus loves 2000 or Vista. It just happened to resurface now ! Maybe some AntiVista hand did it !
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Vista and Crysis will rox your smelly sox off
So will Crisis and 2000 pro, for a bit less money and fewer viruses.":O}
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"Discovered: January 5, 1994
Updated: September 17, 2007 1:43:50 PM
Type: Virus
Systems Affected: Windows 2000, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Me, Windows NT, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows XP

Stoned.Angelina is a boot virus that infects the DOS boot sector of floppy disks and the master boot record (MBR) of hard disks. "


Stoned.Angelina - Symantec.com

It has nothing to do with Vista. It just happened to resurface now ! Maybe some AntiVista hand did it !
LOL Yeah back in 1994 Pro had a problem with it. Now,... just Vista does! Someone Anti-Vista? Your going to have to narrow that down a little bit... let's see there's me and Sam and oh around BILLION people...":O}
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What does Vista has to do with a boot virus. Why is Linux or any OS versions any better? It could have been windows 2000 for all I know.
The difference is more a matter of propogation. Windows computers connected to the internet infect eachother constantly, due to the fact that Windows is run with full admin priviliages, among other things. A virus works by either exploting a vulnerability to force the execution of its code, or by 'tricking' the user into running it (AKA PEBKAC). The virus then makes serious changed to the host operating system. It then by definition spreads itself.

There are viruses for Linux, BSD, and other unix like operating systems, but due to the fact that unix derived operating systems run as multi-user environments, with a non-priviliaged user being in use unless system changes are being made, there is no ability for the virus to make system changes.

Under Vista, you get one of those annoying boxes pop up, saying "blah blah, cancel or allow". Under unix like operating systems, its much more simple. The program runs, and tries to modify protected files, and without even bothering the user, the OS just says "No. Piss off".

The fact of the matter is, if you want system level changes to be made to your computer, you will be doing it as the super user.

The second part is spreading. Unlike Windows users, the average unix like OS user isn't an idiot, and doesn't open an email attachment called "Paris-hilton-sextape.avi.sh". Idiots aside, vulnerabilities in actual applications are not as serious an issue. While on a Windows machine, you would typically download all your crud and install it, then maybe update those programs once a year if ever, the package manager in a linux distro handles all of your programs, and lets you keep every piece of software on your system, from the kernel, to your mail application, to your browser, up to the very latest version.

Bugs in legacy versions of software just doesn't happen due to this.

As far as the "They don't write viruses for other OSes because nobody use them", try to keep in mind that the majority of the internet runs on unix derived operating systems, not windows. Web servers, game servers, banking systems, supercomputers, routers, you name it.

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It should also be noted, that while Vista's new security crap is supposed to help it, it mainly succeeds in pissing off users, Pumpkin for example turned Vista's access control off quite early on, which leaves his Vista in the same pond water as XP and the others.

Vista's security claims are based on an installation with Vista approved drivers, on a secure network, with full user access control turned on, with a firewall enabled, and with the OS and all programs on it completely up to date. Good luck!
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