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Old 28th June, 2005, 01:46 PM
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9NDA3 wont do t1 with 3500 BH5 mem??!

Hi using a 9NDA3J mobo with 3500+ venice, im using 2 sticks of CMX512-3500C2 BH5 memory which is certified to run at 434 with t1 enabled so why doesnt this work ? windows just blue screens as soon as windows is finished loading.. Now I used this memory with a number of different chipsets and have never had problems running t1 before so whats wrong with this motherboard??? ! I'm starting to regret buying epox again.
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Old 28th June, 2005, 02:38 PM
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hello, pls post in this thread maybe Epox will hear us and do something ET: 9nda3j & TCCD 1T problem

thnx!
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Old 28th June, 2005, 02:44 PM
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hello, pls post in this thread maybe Epox will hear us and do something ET: 9nda3j & TCCD 1T problem

thnx!
Done, nice to know its a known issue. Should have come here and checked before buying the mobo.
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the fun is when memory dont work, they say it the motherbord.but
on all amd64 motherbord the memory controler is in the cpu not on the motherbord.

Corsair ram with bh5 or windbond chip dont work werry well with a amd 64 cpu.
samsung tccd chip work fine
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I have corsair with tccd chips, and cant run 1t @ 200MHz dual channel with modules that should run 275MHz dual channel, but the sticks can run individually @ 275MHz 1T.

On the Corsair supported forum, I was told by their tech that a BIOS update may solve this problem...
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the fun is when memory dont work, they say it the motherbord.but
on all amd64 motherbord the memory controler is in the cpu not on the motherbord.

Corsair ram with bh5 or windbond chip dont work werry well with a amd 64 cpu.
samsung tccd chip work fine
Anyone wanna translate this?
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He is saying that the memory modules you have are not known to work very well with A64 CPUs.
Also, the memory controller is built into the CPU, unlike older motherboards, where the memory controller was on the motherboard Northbridge.
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He is saying that the memory modules you have are not known to work very well with A64 CPUs.
Also, the memory controller is built into the CPU, unlike older motherboards, where the memory controller was on the motherboard Northbridge.
Ahhh, so he was just stating the obvious.
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Ahhh, so he was just stating the obvious
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Well that, and suggesting the problem is not with the motherboard....although the amount of people now posting with problems running various memory and cpu combinations @ 1T on 9NDA3+ / 9NDA3J makes me wonder, especially as the same combinations are running 1T on other mainboards without problem!

I'm just waiting for some kind of responce from the EPOX Tech, as I have posted quite a number of times without reply.
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Well that, and suggesting the problem is not with the motherboard....although the amount of people now posting with problems running various memory and cpu combinations @ 1T on 9NDA3+ / 9NDA3J makes me wonder, especially as the same combinations are running 1T on other mainboards without problem!

I'm just waiting for some kind of responce from the EPOX Tech, as I have posted quite a number of times without reply.
Well I think we all this but to say the motherboard plays no part in this is stupidity.
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The Venice and Sandiego Cores have the updated memory controller also. Other MB's and ram combos can run at 1T np with Venice and Sandiego cores like we have. IT IS NOT THE CPU.
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Or other boards slacken off memory timings when set to run at 1T perhaps?

There's only two things that control memory speeds. In hardware, the CPU's memory controller is the interface to memory. In software, the BIOS can set the memory timings used.

Perhaps, if you're feeling brave, you could copy the ROMSIP from any board with the same chipset. Then you could use that to replace the ROMSIP in the 9NDA3 BIOS. That would help to rule out software.
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Old 28th June, 2005, 07:34 PM
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Its a motherboard issue.
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Its a motherboard issue.
From what I've seen it's generally a motherboard issue with the Venice core.

My Winnie 3000+ will run 1T with 2 x 512MB of Kingston HyperX at the same clock rates, it will run 2T. That said my HyperX is evidently the CH-5 and won't run over 210 with any timings with the limited memory voltage available.

I only got here about 5 months back but never saw 1T issues being posted until the Venice core came out. Since then, there seem to be a LOT and the VAST majority involve the Venice core.

Other boards seem to be fun with 1T with the Venice core so it seems obvious that it's an issue with the Venice core on the 9NDA3. Hopefully Epox will investigate at some point and determine if it can be resolved with a BIOS fix. Before doing that, their claims it's purely a processor issue are both ludicrous and irritating.

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It used to be cpu issue. AMD has since fixed that.
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yeah, I wanna jump ship for an A8V or a DFI NF3 at this point, or even an MSI Neo2 if it runs RAM better than this 9nda3+, as long as it doesn't explode on me.
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I just want EPoX to make a statement of some sort...this is my 3rd EPoX mainboard, the other 2 have been top notch, and EPoX support on these forums has been also.
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I am right there with you guys.

My Corsair was running fine in my old 8RDA3i @1t but it wont run 1t on the 9NDA3j even @ stock speeds.It will crank up to 270 with relaxed timings @ 2t though. I would think about getting different memory if I knew for sure it would work.
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Yes I think Epox should at least comment on this 1T problem,so far I've been unable to run my Sandiego 3700+ and G.skill 4400le@1t with any sort of stability on the Epox 9NDA3+.

This ram is specifically rated as being able to run at 275mhz 1T,have tested the sticks individually and they both run as rated without mem test errors,in dual channel I can just about run them @ stock in 1T without errors albeit with very relaxed timings,its quite disappointing as the board seems to be a very stable overclocker.

I've got an MSI Neo 2 Plat sat beside me which I'm intending to try later so I can make a direct comparison,would anyone be interested in my findings? e.g whether or not I can run my G.skill @1T with the sandiego@stock settings and overclocked.
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By all means post results, where all interested..
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