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Old 23rd October, 2002, 08:24 PM
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GeForce 5

any news???

i heard just now that it should appear on market 2months time and i think twice the speed of GeForce4 Ti4600 :O

corrct me if im wrong please
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Old 20th November, 2002, 10:16 PM
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I went to the launch the other day,

http://www.spodesabode.com/content/article/geforcefx

I would agree that it will be twice the speed of the Geforce 4 ti4600. I would also agree with 2 months.
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Nice article there spode

Kinda agree with you when you talk about the moral issues of more life-like graphics coming into play. Something that seriously needs to be under extreme consideration.
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We are (USA) already dealing with this in terms of digitally created "Kiddie porn" which is indistinguishable from actual photos of child abuse.

Created images which some feel are not real therefore have no victim. Others feel that they inspire the molester. Yet other say that it provides them with a victim-less out let for their urges.

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Old 21st November, 2002, 04:46 AM
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so any thoughts on a law? How do we tackle this situation? ARe there any societies looking into it? Some sort of government agency?

I am personally quite scared about this. It's put a lot of thoughts into my mind.

I think the matrix sparked off a lot of those thoughts.
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Old 21st November, 2002, 05:05 AM
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Sort of falls into the realm of abnormal Psychology. Personally I don't know what the answer is. I'd go for what ever grants our children the greatest degree of protection.

Adults seeking Sex with children is nothing new, been with us since the caves. What CAN be done about it other than incarceration is beyond me. Seems like every family has someone they just don't leave the kids with.

I think human culture as a whole is at a loss as to what to do, perhaps the future holds a means of re-orientation... Until then the kids suffer and we lock up otherwise useful people who by all accounts have no control over what they find arousing.

Here I'm referring to those who seduce rather than the those who rape. Needless to say both are harmful.

As to those who use force, as Dennis Miller said:
"if you feel you absolutely must go out and hurt a child, Please just put a gun to your head instead and pull the trigger, I promise you God will understand and welcome you with open arms."
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Old 21st November, 2002, 05:11 AM
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I was referrring more to the problem of computer games being too real actually, but nice responce all the same :P
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I won't worry tons until an actual star-trek hologram style comes out that totally eliminates the lines between reality and fantasy.IMHO though, anybody who goes for kiddy porn-real or CGI- should have a frontal lobotomy and hung by their toes.
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Old 21st November, 2002, 01:10 PM
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Ok this discussion is going in the completely opposite way I was hoping.... wasn't really wanting to be touching on kiddy-porn....

My point is that the hologram suite is GOING TO HAPPEN. Not like time travel or something stupid like that that could happen - this WILL happen. Which means we need to think about governing it now.
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Agreed with spode there

Whilst not trying to talk about kiddy porn; () i have to say governments tend to have a hard time when it comes to things like this. They're either:
a) blamed for not thinking about it too early when its too late
b) overreacting about something that might not happen

It seems some countries like Germany for example already ban very violent games. Putting zombies into Carmaggedon instead of real people, etc. Again, some people see this as overreacting.

On the other extreme, school shootings in America were blamed on highly violent computer games. Although some people may scoff at these claims they may have a point in the future. I guess until people can actually prove this is the cause of a maybe future insurgence of violence, then most people aren't going to think of it.

Perhaps we rely too much on proof rather than gut instinct, which you Spode obviously are showing (gut instinct that is).

Difficult subject to tackle there, but thats what I can briefly think about in a quick 5 minutes
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Someone has gotta have something wrong with their head if they are inspired to kill due to a computer game. When i was younger i was violent, that was not due to computer games, or TV. Thats just the only way I could deal with people picking on me all the time.

I could say it was an outside influence, but it wasnt. A lot of people try to blame outside things for the way they act. I dont, I face the fact that I am not the perfect human, i can make mistakes totally on my own.
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Someone has gotta have something wrong with their head if they are inspired to kill due to a computer game.
Exactly, and there are people like that.
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it just scares me.
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We are (USA) already dealing with this in terms of digitally created "Kiddie porn" which is indistinguishable from actual photos of child abuse.

Created images which some feel are not real therefore have no victim. Others feel that they inspire the molester. Yet other say that it provides them with a victim-less out let for their urges.

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I see what you mean Dan, it's hard to tell if this will solve there problem. Will it be an out let or will it drive them for more?
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so any thoughts on a law? How do we tackle this situation? ARe there any societies looking into it? Some sort of government agency?

I am personally quite scared about this. It's put a lot of thoughts into my mind.

I think the matrix sparked off a lot of those thoughts.
I've always felt the the goverment was the type that ignored it till it was a HUGE problem and then said "LOOK we need to raise taxes to deal with things like this."

Then raise the taxes then threw a few bux at the problem NEVER solve anything and leave the taxes at the raised amount.
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I'll say what I have said before, some people will be influenced by it and it will encourage them to kill, some it will disgust, some will see it as just a game.
The question is in which proportions these people exist, lets hope the majority are the latter.
Although if you can tell the difference between the game and real life, well that would be weird, but there is one simple test, keep talking to one person, eventually they will repeat the same line back to you continuously
"please find my son...."
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