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Old 1st February, 2002, 02:31 AM
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Is it just me? or did GeforceIII owners got ripped off

I bought the GeforceIII ti-500 for $350 on January 1st, now they're releasing a Geforce 4 which will be almost twice as fast as GeforceIII ti-500 and for the same price? What seems like to me is that the geforce 4 is really the geforce 3 but the geforce 3 now is just a beta version =P.. Geforce 4 is released like..2 or 3 months after geforce 3 came out, this is really unfair....
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Old 1st February, 2002, 03:15 AM
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Actually GF3 was introduced in march of 2001, The GF3 Ti series was then introduced 6 months later. This falls perfectly in-line with Nvidia's 12 Month new product introduction, 6 month product refresh, time table . . . . .
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I bought my geforce3 for £270 last April.
So its allready given me ten months of good service.

Im still playing most games in 1600x1200 and ive not had to overclock the card yet.

Im expecting to get at least another year of use maybee longer before I cant play new games at a reasonable level of detail and resolution.

In six months Nvidia will almost certainly release a Geforce4ULTRA or geforce5 and people will be in the same situation again.

At the moment technology is so far in advance of the avalable games that there are still no games that can stress me geforce3 a year after a bought it. I think that geforce4 owners will have to wait a similar ammount of time before they get the best from there new cards, obviously there will be something better out by then.

Ive seen geforce3's like mine on sale for around £160 so I havent realy lost too much through buying early. I had to buy something it was either a £150 geforce2 or the more expensive geforce3.

I dont feel ive been ripped off.

I would probably be a bit annoyed if id paid £350 for a ti500 a couple of months aggo.
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I give up using my pc as a games machine when my tnt2 ultra started falling off the min spec list after only 18 months after me buying it, I'll stick to consoles that have a 3-5 year life span and cost less
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I spent $350 on my ti-500 and only had 2 months to mess arround with it... now i can get a geforce 4 4600 for the same price and yet a lot faster.. i hate this world...
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I spent $350 on my ti-500 and only had 2 months to mess arround with it... now i can get a geforce 4 4600 for the same price and yet a lot faster.. i hate this world...
Thats a bit annoying.

just try to bear in mind that the Ti500 is a great card that will still be a top performer for a long time to come.

A geforce3 is total overkill on todays games so you wouldnt gain anything usefull from buying a Geforce4.

Can you tell the diference between 60fps and 150 ?
I think not.

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now is probably a bad time to mention I have two Geforce 3's and I paid nothing for them :-D
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now is probably a bad time to mention I have two Geforce 3's and I paid nothing for them :-D
no, no it's not
Well I have a voodoo2 and I paid nothing for that either
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I hope these aren't products of the trade forum :nervous:
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I hope these aren't products of the trade forum :nervous:
like anyone would be bothered if I jipped them out of a voodoo2 (trust me the guys not )
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Can you tell the diference between 60fps and 150 ?
I think not.


!?!? were you being sarcastic??
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!?!? were you being sarcastic??
I don't think he was, I cannot tell after about 40fps, some people's eyes are more sensitive and can see the improvement with higher framerates...

If you followed my earlier link you already know my opinion on this
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40FPS is far too low... for me..

Remember that TVs manage between 50-60FPS, so consoles are set up to run at that rate where they can. Once you throw interlace into the mix, you're talking 25-30FPS for normal TV.

I've run 3D glasses in the past, and they absolutely require that you run VSYNC, otherwise things get very nasty, and you end up with a headache.

Not only that, but running 3D glasses reduces the power of the graphics card by just over half. Hence, running things in real 3D requires a graphics card that is just over twice the speed of everyone elses. Of course, when you're playing a game that supports 3D properly (another story there), then it's definately worthwhile.

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i can tell the difference between 60 fps and 70...
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!?!? were you being sarcastic??
No..not entirely.

What I meant was..

Is it worth paying another £300 to go from 60fps full resolution and detail to 150fps on the same settings ?

I dont think a geforce4 will be noticable better in any of the games im playing today, so im not going to buy one.

I do have 3d glasses too but as I have to drop the resolution to get a 120 refresh rate on the monitor I get fast enough FPS.
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now is probably a bad time to mention I have two Geforce 3's and I paid nothing for them :-D

OK everyone JUMP spode.

He won't be able to scream for help anyways!!! HAHAH

(I had mine taken out too)


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u cant tell anything more than about 30fps, TV runs at 24 and i cant detect a jerkyness to it at all.

remember an AVERAGE 40 FPS on a game probably peaks at 70 and its lowest is about 15 - 20, u can detect a slideshow effect at anything under about 20

an average of 70 FPS u wont ever notice slow down!

And spode has a pair of GF 3's i got a radeon review is taking shape at the mo!
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A news item on Anandtech's front page today(Feb 9) points to an article saying that Nvidia plans to get rid of GF 3 inventory rapidly. How can folks live without brand new $500 Vidcards? I know I can't!
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