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Old 6th February, 2002, 10:52 PM
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How I destroyed a $200 vid. card

Please pay special and close attention to these details. It may save someone else from a horrible experience. It may also result in someone giving me some advise that may help my problem.
I installed a new Radeon 8500 a couple of weeks ago and all is fine and I Love it. Well...I decided to get frisky and to install those little heatsinks on the mem chips. I bought them from Highspeed PC.
I installed eight of them on the mem and I installed another one on the regulator chip. In addition, I popped off the fan and heatsink from the GPU using the credit card trick. I then installed a new Blue Orb onto the GPU. All of this was installed using the NEW Arctic Silver Alumina adhesive. This adhesive is supposed to be a pure insulator and is supposed to have ZERO conductivity and no capacitance. I verfied this speaking directly with the people at Arctic. I used this product because it is very forgiving and if you get overflow onto the mem traces, it will matter not and makes no difference. SO I was not very careful when doing the job and there is in fact a small amount that got on a few of the traces. Keep that in mind as a possible problem!
There appears to be NO overflow on the GPU traces or on the regulator traces. Just a little on a few of the mem chips.
I installed the board and re-installed it over and over and the board is a mess. The colors are all crazy. I can see heavy pixleing.
There also appears to be some sort of static on the screen. IN short, it looks like ****. It dropped my Mark3D02 scores from 8011 to like 5000. The problem has to be either the GPU heat sink, or the mem heat sinks??? I don't know. Has anyone ever had this problem. This is horrible. this is a 200 dollar board that I have trashed.
Either I somehow slid one of the heatsinks over too far and it is shorting out again one of the traces (although I think they come out slightly lower than the top of the chip), or I have botched the install of the GPU fan and h/s. ATI told me to take a hike and said they wouldn't even fix it if I paid them. The guys ar Arctic told me that it may have been caused my static charge. Possible but I doubt it.
I am lost and feel absolulety horrible. Help! Mike
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Hm... wierd thing... All I can say is make sure you got everything seated well, all the wires making good contact, and how hot does the card get? Like can you feel the warmth by touching the heatsink. (careful though, don't burn yourself )
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First impression, based on the static lines on the screen I'd guess the memory is the culprit... usually overheated cores just freeze everything up.
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contrary to popular beleif, almost any epoxy will hose your mem chips if you smear it all over the connects, ask Daniel, he knows first hand
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yeah dude. Try some nail polish remover and get that stuff off your mem traces. I hope it works out for you.

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Old 7th February, 2002, 02:28 PM
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Not sure if I would take nail polish remover to it, but I would get a electronics cleaner/degreaser and hose it down, dry it out, and try again.
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Urgent plea

I am in desperate need of that heatsink and fan assembly that comes standard on the Radeon 8500 card. As we all know, it is very common for guys to pop this off and install in it's place a better cooler such as on Orb or something else.
The reason I need it is that I have to send my card back for warranty as I found the problem. A little capacitor had come loose and was not soldered on properly and it is way too small for me to dick with. I want to send my card back for warranty repair or exchange but if I do not put that original fan back on it so that it doesn't look like it's been modified, they will not fix it under warranty. I threw my old one away as it is of no value.
Now I would be willing to pay someone a fair price to give me their old sink and fan but it must be that original one. Can ANYONE help, please???? Mike
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I'm glad that you found the real problem. I'm not too much of a pack rat. Except with PC components. If it isn't broken, don't throw the part away! Let's see.. I saved the ultra-weeniest 40mm fan that came with the Elsa GF256. This thing couldn't move goose down--but I still have it.

A member with micro-soldering skills may be able to fix the loose capacitor on your ATi Vidcard. Don't give up the ship too soon.
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You near st louis missouri? If so i may be able to solder it for ya. Just email me and we can chat.
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You near st louis missouri? If so i may be able to solder it for ya. Just email me and we can chat.
Wow, that was lucky. His location says St. Louis, and so does yours!

BTW, St. Louis is a very nice city. I went there for an 8th grade trip and had a ton of fun.
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I was going to say, it may be cheaper to get it resoldered than to buy a replacement HSF for it.
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Yeah dude, resoldering is easy. I do it all the time. Usually on the Start buttons on copiers.

People press down way to hard and brake the solder joints. I just go in and reheat them up and viola, it works again.

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