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Old 8th February, 2002, 09:41 AM
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256 v 512 overclockability

Ok, so I am kinda gettin the feeling that most people in this forum don't go for intel :nervous: making me somewhat of a nonconformist :nervous:.... But I digress..

I was asked a question about choosing P4 chips today that I couldn't exactly answer..

I was asked if it would be better to have a 1.8 512k Northwood P4 over a 1.9 256(?) P4. How much does that extra 256k help the chip? and is one more overclockable than the other?

As far as I know, they only make a 1.9 model in .18 (256k) and not .16 (512k) Northwood.

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Old 8th February, 2002, 12:58 PM
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cough, Intel topic, cough

Anyway, I believe the only 1.9Ghz Intel chip is a .18 micron, as you said. Read: it sucks for overclocking. There is a 1.8Ghz .13 micron version the 1.8A I think, that is a very good overclocker for some and only as good as the 1.9 for others. Generally however, I'd say go with the .13 micron chip as it will probably overclock better.
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Northwoods will overclock higher and run faster clock for clock with the .18 P4s because of the extra L2 cache.
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Hey, you aren't the only intel guy in here, hehe.

I would say go with the 1.8 Northwood. Its a bit faster, and overclocks a lot better.
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Hey, you aren't the only intel guy in here, hehe.

I would say go with the 1.8 Northwood. Its a bit faster, and overclocks a lot better.
I'm not anti intel, AMD just makes better stuff for me right now. I agree with Allan though, the 1.8northwood would be the way to go in this case.
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Old 8th February, 2002, 10:52 PM
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This is a very interesting thread. I've not been keeping track of Intel's CPU's, chipsets and shenanigans lately. Please to forgive my ignorance. OK. Are the Tualeron's really simply P3E's with a die shrink? Do they have 256Kb of L2 cache? How about the 16-way associative L1 cache(of P3E's)? Is this still crippled to ?4-way for your Celeroning pleasure? I know that they're 100 Mhz FSB--"officially." Yet they seem amenable to serious overclockage.

The die shrink to .13 Micron seems to have the benefit of making these processors OCable to 133 Mhz FSB. If this is a reasonable OC expectation, is it whack to consider the Tualacelly's "P3EB's?" Seems accurate to me. "Real" P3E/EB's are still overpriced, IMHO.

This is one of the rare instances when Chipzilla gives "the little guy" a break. Setting aside the fact that Celerons 2's finally dropped to a reasonable cost, the last time Intel did this was with the C300A. If your C300A was lucky, it would run as the equivalent of a PII 450--in nearly every meaningful BM. Intel must genuinely be unsettled by a performance/price ratio that AMD is offering.

If this weren't the case, I can't imagine Intel ever releasing the .13 Micron Tualatin Celeron "3." This processor refloats the P3 family--when widely known scuttlebutt had it that Intel wanted P4's, the whole P4's and nothing but the P4's.

The Tualerons are such a great bang/buck CPU.... Naah, 'fraid I have the AMD religion. Nonetheless, they are great processors!
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I know its an intel topic... but nobody ever looks in there!:-D

Almost to the point now that is should be renamed to "The Forbidden Thread"
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I know its an intel topic... but nobody ever looks in there!:-D

Almost to the point now that is should be renamed to "The Forbidden Thread"
Cool, I hadn't noticed, I never look in there":O}
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