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Old 1st March, 2005, 06:49 AM
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x700 or 6600??

my friend is building a computer, but we cant decide over which one to get. it's going to be a pci-e mobo. whats the better one for price and stuff? pro or xt or gt or ultra or whatever...i would really prefer 256 mb
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I would recommend the 6600GT. There is no longer an X700XT, only an X700Pro, unless cadaveca knows otherwise since hes the reseller dude around these parts.
The 6600GT and X700 are very closely matched however the 6600GT is fully SM3.0 capable, has the full range of purevideo support, and has recently been given a performance edge over the X700 through driver improvements. Then there is SLI support which is cool even if you have a non-SLI motherboard at the moment, as you might have an SLI board down the track. I would even take a 128mb 6600GT over a 256mb X700Pro.
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This is hardOCP's review of the 256MB X700Pro, comparing it to the 6600GT 128MB. As you can see, the 128MB 6600GT is faster than the 256MB X700 in most tests and never lags behind the X700. Since that review was done, the new 75.90 drivers improve the 6600GT's performance by between 8% and 10%, putting it a step ahead. Highly recommended based on this.

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NzA4LDE=
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Dsio is rright the 6600GT will outperform any of the X700's and with the option in the future of sticking a 2nd one in for near 6800ultra performance it maks a lot of sense
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I hate all things nVidia, but the 6600GT is by far a better buy.


DSIO..no x700XT's. THey'd be x800se's. There is a product SKu from ATI for a x700XT, but I don't think they ever came to market in force, if at all outside of OEM boxes.


But there is one....


http://www.abit-usa.com/products/gra...es=1&model=240

EDIT:the 6600gt gives about 1000 points better in 3dmark03 than a stock x700XT.
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I got this last year too, but have yet to see one of these cards.

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For Immediate Release PR contact: pr@tul.com.tw

Tul Corporation announces PowerColor SCS X700XT
- Flagship PCIe mainstream graphics card equipped with the ‘Silent Cooling System’
TAIPEI, TAIWAN (16th November, 2004) –Tul™ today announces the PowerColor Silent Cooling System (SCS) X700XT. The PowerColor SCS X700XT enables ATI’s RADEON™X700XT VPU and the newest Silent Cooling System as a flagship graphics card in PCIe mainstream market.

The PowerColor SCS X700XT is based on RADEON™X700XT VPU, offering eight parallel pixel pipes and six vertex pipes. The PowerColor SCS X700 XT equips the cutting-edge Silent Cooling System, which is a high performance fanless VPU cooler, 0dB cooling system, along with larger heat sink surface to surpass ATI standard fan sink up to 70% performance of heat dissipation. The SCS enables "Heatpipe Technology" with gold-plated copper tube
(ψ5mm, ψ6mm x2) making the heat transporting efficiently. There is no doubt the PowerColor SCS X700 XT is the most recommended PCIe graphics card that will bring you into the most powerful gaming performance.

The PowerColor SCS X700 XT, the core/memory clock speed up to 475/
525 MHz/sec. and memory up to 128MB GDDR3 SDRAM, delivers frame rates that surpass any previous mainstream graphics card. "We are please to bring a new level of gaming and a richer visual experience to users. Whether you are upgrading your present PC or buying a new one, the PowerColor SCS X700 XT will easily handle today’s entertainment." said Ted Chen, CEO of Tul Corporation.

PowerColor SCS X700XT

TUL CORPORATION 7F-7, NO. 79, HSIN TAI WU RD. SEC. 1, HSI-CHIH, TAIPEI HSIEN, TAIWAN 221, R.O.C TEL +886 2 8698 3000 FAX +886 2 5590 3789

The PowerColor SCS X700 XT not only supports Dual-DVI but also VIVO and HDTV output functions. The PowerColor SCS X700 XT features SMARTSHADER™HD and supports PCI Express™X 16 lane native, along with six programmable vertex shader pipelines and 128 bit dual- channel GDDR3 memory interface. The PowerColor SCS X700 XT delivers the most beautifully-rendered high-definition 3D animation for the ultimate in intense, interactive game play and excellent performance for a price suitable to a wide variety of users.

The PowerColor SCS X700 XT bundles with Fan for upgrading your PC convection, along with the latest DX9 game: "Hitman: Contracts™". Besides, there are a lot more software you can find in PowerColor X700XT SCS Edition.

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About Tul™Corporation
Tul™Corporation (Tul: Technology UnLimited in brief, previously C.P. Technology), based in Taipei, Taiwan, is established in 1997. Tul™Corporation is a leader within the PC industry, and owns the well-known graphic card brand-- Tul™Corporation is also a leading provider of motherboards, barebones systems, thin clients and Home Gateway Services - making the company one of the PC industry’s fastest growing suppliers for integrated PC product solutions around the globe. Tul™Corporation employs more than 180 talents, and has branch offices in over 50 countries for supporting dealers, distributors, as well as over 300 channel partners. Tul’s major customers include tier one ODMs, distributors, VARs, and system integrators. For more details, please consult: www.tul.com.tw .

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I hate all things nVidia, but the 6600GT is by far a better buy.


DSIO..no x700XT's. THey'd be x800se's. There is a product SKu from ATI for a x700XT, but I don't think they ever came to market in force, if at all outside of OEM boxes.


But there is one....


http://www.abit-usa.com/products/gra...es=1&model=240

EDIT:the 6600gt gives about 1000 points better in 3dmark03 than a stock x700XT.

Once every month or so cada and I see eye to eye, given that this is one of those few occasions, i'd say buy it ASAP. LOL.
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ok i guess ive chosen to go with the 6600 gt..which one should i get, cause there all those secondary manufacturers.
but im thinking this one.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...2916&promoid=0
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That one isnt a GT is it?
I think leadteks and xfx cards about about the cheapest, at least in the uk, asus bundles doom3 with theirs but it's not a very well liked game.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...150-078&depa=1

By the way have you tried soft modding your 9500?
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no i havnt done anything to my 9500 pro..i dont even kno if it is cool enough to do any oc'in on it.. but i did see a gpu cooler for like 20$..Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer Revision 3. and my friend already has doom 3. and doom 3.. thats why i want a 256 mb card.. plus any future games will problably use it too.. he will have this computer for quite a while also... the only 256 mb pcx 6600 gt is a gigabyte.. and it only comes in a pack of 2.
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XFX are pretty good.
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XFX or BFG..i;d go BFG becasue of the lifetime warranty. I have never had a vid card last that long! Replacements are of equal or greater value!
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but that cards only a standard 6600 and only has a 300mhz gpu according to the specs on that site so performance will be way down when compared with a 6600GT

I don't think you would need additional coling to perform the softmod on the 9500, it doesn't overclock it it just enables 4 extra pixel pipelines that will give a sizeable boost to performance.

http://www.omegadrivers.net/

And you might consider the VGA Silencer Rev3 for it as well, it is more than capable of cooling a 9500

http://www.arctic-cooling.com/vga2.php?idx=41
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about those omega drivers...do they automaticly unlock the extra pipelines when they are installed or would i have to do something else??
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To get more pipelines you would need to flash the graphics card BIOS to a modded BIOS.
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no you don't need to flash the bios, install the omega drivers and select softmod for 9500 during the install, then test it in a game, if there are snowy pixels, checker board effect or any artifacts or glitches then revert to the normal drivers, if there isn't run a 3dmark and it should be about 50% faster, some things will be twice as fast
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sweet, il try it out..
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