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Old 28th January, 2006, 07:52 AM
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GeForce FX 5500.....

Whats up everyone....

I have a GeForce FX 5500 and I know its not the best card in the world but I want to know what the best drivers are for it. Also, what else can I do with this card so I can achieve a better FPS...

I ran 3dMark06 and my score was as follows

SM2.0 - 71
CPU - 884

Im not sure if thats even the right score but thats what it said when the test was over. Any advice on how to tweak my settings alittle is appreciated.

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for that card, IMO, the older 6x.xx series drivers would be the best for it. as for the score idk, i have yet to run 06 myself
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you need to run 3dmark 03 to get a better analysis for that card, both 3dmark 05 and 3dmark 06 are well above your card's head lol.
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Okay I ran 3dMark03 and I got 1449 3dMarks.


I dont know exactly how bad that is but going by all the other 3dmarks Ive heard that is pretty bad. What are some settings I can turn off to get better marks? I want to keep my settings at 1024x768, I dont want to go down to 800x600. I can overclock my card changing the nvidia clock frequency settings. If I let it detect optimal then the core and memory both move up alittle. Is it safe to keep it on that 24/7? I bought an other fan for my case, its moving around a lot of air. The case itself has some nice fans. Its an XBlade case.

Also, how can I monitor my cards temperature? And whats the temperature that I shouldnt ever go over with this card?

Sorry for all the questions but I really wanna get all I can out of this pos card.
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Old 29th January, 2006, 04:40 AM
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The driver you want is the TweaksRUs Xtreme-G 76.10 driver. It gives the best SM2.0 performance, with reasonable image quality for your card in SM2.0 mode.

Now, this all depends on what games you are running. In all honesty, your card is a DX8 card that is DX9 capable.

So if you are using Direct X 9 games, use the 76.10 XG modified driver. If you are using DX8 games, you will get noticeably better performance by using the Omega modified 44.03 driver.

Both are here at AOAFiles mate. Let us know how it turns out.
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Old 29th January, 2006, 05:56 AM
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I mostly play Americas Army. I average around 30fps. I have heard from some people that if they use DX8 then this card runs better but if they upgrade to 9 it slows it down a lot.

Would I be able to downgrade to DX8 and still play Americas Army?

Im going to download the TweaksRU and see how they are.

I just got done OC'ing my card and I ran 3dMark03 and got 1698 3dmarks.

Ill see if I can beat that with the new drivers.
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I tried the TweaksRU drivers but my card wouldnt run right with them so I went back to the Omega drivers. I tweaked all my settings to the best I know how and Americas Army is playing alittle better. It seems if I want it to get any better then I have to get a better card. Hows the ATi Radeon X1600 512mb 8xAGP?
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A complete and utter piece of camel crap.

Its slower than an AGP 6800.

Its considerably slower than a 6800GS.

Get a real card. Not ATI's midrange junk. If you want ATI you need at least an X1800. Anything less than top shelf for ATI has always been a complete disaster.
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What about the ATi Radeon 850XT 256mb 8xAGP?

My brother has that card. It runs any game out there from what Ive seen. He payed $279. If that cards a POS, then I guess Im going to have to have a POS card because Im not spending more than that on a gfx card.
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Old 29th January, 2006, 11:19 PM
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The X850 is dead. That card is SM2.0 only. It does not support SM3.0 at all. It will perform worse than a Geforce 6 6600 in 3DMark06. It is not capable of running SM3.0 special effects in any new games.

The X850 and the entire ATI X series is too old to be worth looking at these days.

You can get a 6800GS for $279. The 6800GS overclocks very well, is unlockable, and can be turned into a 6800 Ultra rather easily, even going beyond that on some cases.

Its a far better card than an X850, and about the only option in your price range. ATI cards below an X1800 are simply not an option at this point.
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hey i play AA too, i remember back when the FX series were new i ran the game everything at top with a kickass 80FPS with my 5600, then i upgraded to 5700le which i really regret doing. But if your wanting to buy a new GFX card get the 6800GS or Ultra, my friend got 6800GS off ebay for 150 bucks so defenatly look on ebay a little.
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You ran AA on the highest settings at 80FPS?

I have everything around the middle settings and Im averaging 35FPS with my FX5500 OC'd to the max.

Howd you do it.
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Old 30th January, 2006, 04:55 AM
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Just so you know, your 5500 is a slower card than a Geforce 4 TI 4200 (bottom of the Geforce 4 TI range) and about the same speed as a Geforce 3 classic or 500.

The 5600 is only very slightly better, still slower than the entire Geforce 4 TI range.

Volten whats your CPU?
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Old 30th January, 2006, 05:56 AM
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The X850 is dead. That card is SM2.0 only. It does not support SM3.0 at all. It will perform worse than a Geforce 6 6600 in 3DMark06. It is not capable of running SM3.0 special effects in any new games.

The X850 and the entire ATI X series is too old to be worth looking at these days.

You can get a 6800GS for $279. The 6800GS overclocks very well, is unlockable, and can be turned into a 6800 Ultra rather easily, even going beyond that on some cases.

Its a far better card than an X850, and about the only option in your price range. ATI cards below an X1800 are simply not an option at this point.
Dsio's 100% right. And to sweeten the deal the 6800GS does not go anywhere close to $280, the card goes for $180-200. Right now it is the best card in it's class. Period.
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MOTHERBOARD: QUALITY VIA PM800 800FSB HYPER-THREADING DDR400 ATX MOTHERBOARD w/USB 2.0 and 8xAGP PORT
1 8xAGP Slot & 3 Free PCI SLOTS / 4 ULTRA ATA-133/100/66/33 IDE DEVICES ON 2 CHANNELS

Memory: 1024MB FAST DDRAM, GOLD LEADS (I will be buying another gig)

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Those are my system specs.

It looks like if I cant tweak this card any better then I will be going with this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143045

Its a BFG 6800GS for $209.
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Might be wise to get a new PSU if your current one came with that case
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Old 30th January, 2006, 07:21 AM
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Might be wise to get a new PSU if your current one came with that case
Exactly what I was thinking.

Your PSU is a generic / made by indoor hat wearers / stolen from a Korean dock varienty unit. A decent Enermax PSU would be a very smart investment for you, and provide better stability in overclocking.

A 400W or more Enermax PSU would do the trick.

That BFG 6800GS is a brilliant choice. You can't go wrong with one of those, and the price looks great.

You said you could spent $280 on the video card. Rather than that, spend $209 on the card, and the rest on a PSU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103459
This one is $64, and a very good unit, far better than yours.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103457
This one is only $12 more, but is absolutely worth it for the extra power. This is the best value unit at $76. Extremely highly Recommended.
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http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=86937
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=22437
x850xtpe at stock, 6600gt in sli. your observations were essentially based on nothing.

and 3dmark06 is hardly the test to be using seeing as a dual core cpu add 1000 points to your score. sure it's sm2.0 but since the release of hdr, that doesn't really matter anymore. (see steam for details on that hdr was released to run sm3.0 on non sm 3.0 hardware)

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care to show any proof of that seeing as 90% of ati's customers buy the mid and low end cards? the obvious answer would be a specific case you had but that would be aload of crap, seeing as nv has had just as many bad cards, their drivers just have less issues. don't post in generalities it makes you look ignorant.

I agree the x850 isn't the best choice but not because its a bad card, it is infact an awesome card for it's era and it put the 6800 series in single card (thus equal price comparison) to shame, I'd say that being on a 630 already and being that he's looking into a new psu and gpu, why not go pcix? something like a 7800gt or x1800xl would do quite nicely.
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Oh please...

You want specifics? The ATI X600 series was released as a midrange product. It didn't even come close to the equivilant 6600 series, and as a result was replaced by the X700, which was still an inferior card to the 6600GT. ATI's X series only had a midrange performer in the form of the X800GTO. Good card, but too late.

Then there is the X1000 series. I won't talk about the X1300, becuase along with its Nvidia counterpart, it goes into the "don't care" barrel. The X1600 is a midrange card, designed to compete with the 6800GS.

It doesn't.

I had a review sample X1600XT only a few weeks ago, and was so dusgusted by its price (this was before the price drop, but it is still far overpriced) for the performance, that I made a post here about it.

I know you seam to hate reviews, but in any case, I'll try to find a few.

Guru3Ds sums it up rather well http://www.guru3d.com/article/content/308/20/

http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/...re/1577_1.html

So far these are the only two I found googling X1600XT review, that include a comparison with the 6800GS. That is why I chose them, not because I went systematically through their history to make sure they are NVidia biased, or ATI haters.

I'll try to find some more, if you would like.


And by the way, I thought you would know better than to directly compare a PAIR of X850XT cards in a Crossfire config to a PAIR of 6600GTs. What on earth was the point of that?

Of course TWO X850XTs are faster than a pair of 6600GTs.
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Then there is the X1000 series. I won't talk about the X1300, becuase along with its Nvidia counterpart, it goes into the "don't care" barrel. The X1600 is a midrange card, designed to compete with the 6800GS.
umm when were you born that you actually though the x1600 series (new series) was designed to compete with the 6800gs (old series) damn I was right you ARE ignorant on this subject hello! wake up and get your thinking cap on! x800gto redesigned old series, 6800gs redesigned old series hmmm patern here? gto designed to compete with the gs? yes duh! gto 12 pipes 256bit mem, gs 12 pipes 256bit mem.

seriously you really didn't believe that the 128-bit memory x1600 was desinged to compete with anything other than the 7600 series which never hit the shelves. being that the 7600 didn't it memrely became the newer faster x700, again a big seller. not to mention the x600 was released a mere month beofre the x700 which ultimately did become one of ati's number one sellers. did the pro outperform the gt overall, no, but that didn't hurt sales nor direct 3d performance, as hl2 still favored the ati card. and your statement was again a generality which seemed to incorporate all time. so you wanna talk about the 9600xt vs 5700 ultra? or the 9500 pro vs the 5600 ultra?

the point of that was i didn't dfeel like scrolling down too far, crossfire x850's vs 6600's in sli, you said because the x850's weren't sm3.0
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would you like a single x850 vs a single 6600? well fine.
here your claim didn't include sli vs a single x850.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=51158
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=40052
result is the same, and if one card beats one then two card beat two and being that crossfire isn't as efficient as sli I actaully gave nv the upper hand above based on what you said one 6600 vs one x850.
don't act all shocked and waht was the point of that, based on your claim the comparison was fair, and again your statement was based on nothing!

and here the kicker for your (and many others assumptions) why would ati pick a 12 pipe 128-bit non modable card to go against a 12pipe 256bit modable card? the answer is they didn't, the x800gto was released to go against the 6800gs. both cards can be unlocked, (with specific expceptions on bth sides) both cards are etreme overlcokers and they coem shipped with 12 pipes and 256-bit gddr3 memory.
seriously how old are you? 16?
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