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Deadman93723 7th July, 2006 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsio
Standard 6800 Ultras ship at 1.4V from the factory. I think your issue could be power feed / PSU.

I know, this PSU just doesn't put out enough amperage.

mbataka 7th July, 2006 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsio
So this is a 512MB card? If its a 512MB card, its an NV42 with a bridge, though there is a very low possibility that its a freak NV41. Either way, it needs its stock bios, no two ways about it. Do you know for sure what the brand of the card is?

OK. card Brand name is DIABLOTEK

- Model : GeForce 6800 GS AGP8X 512MB
- P/N : NA/6800GXTD52-PM8370
- S/N : NA6800GXTD52V406000720
- Mode#V6800GS-512A

I'm tryed to get chip name with Nibitor 2.9a and there was saying NV41. So i'm so confused about this chip. Does anyone can recognise WHAT REALLY CHIP IS IT? And i'm now going to decrease core clock and test. Which me good luck ehe hehe.

SwissArmyKnight 15th July, 2006 04:57 AM

Quick question...
 
When I get to the unlock screen I get this:

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4521/screenwv5.jpg

Notice the following:
  • Description does not state "Pixel Unit 3" or "Vertex Unit 5" for bit 3 and 13.
  • It doesn't say "enabled" for bit 3 and 13.
  • There isn't a "yes" in the HW masked column for either items?

What should I do? The screen looks quite different from the one shown. :(

I think it's safest not to attempt the unlock in case something goes wrong...

dsio 15th July, 2006 05:05 AM

Exactly what card do you have?

SwissArmyKnight 15th July, 2006 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsio
Exactly what card do you have?

Thanks for quick reply. Card info:
http://www.legendmemory.com/modules....ticle&sid=2531


-----------------------------
DisplayDevices (DxDiag)
-----------------------------
Cardname - NVIDIAGeForce6800GS/XT
Manufacturer - NVIDIA
Chiptype - GeForce6800GS
DACtype - IntegratedRAMDAC
DeviceKey - Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_00F6&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A2
DisplayMemory - 256.0MB
CurrentMode - 1024x768(32bit)(75Hz)
Monitor - ViewSonicE70-9
MonitorMaxRes - 1280,1024
DriverName - nv4_disp.dll
DriverVersion - 6.14.0010.9131(English)
DDIVersion - 9(orhigher)
DriverAttributes - FinalRetail
DriverDate/Size - 6/1/200617 - 22 - 00,4529408bytes
WHQLLogo'd - n/a
WHQLDateStamp - n/a
VDD - n/a
MiniVDD - nv4_mini.sys
MiniVDDDate - 6/1/200617 - 22 - 00,3925920bytes
DeviceIdentifier - {D7B71E3E-43B6-11CF-1B40-0A2003C2CB35}
VendorID - 0x10DE
DeviceID - 0x00F6
SubSysID - 0x00000000
RevisionID - 0x00A2
RevisionID - 0x00A2



----------------------------------------------------------------
RivaTuner Info:
----------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff Northbridge information
----------------------------------------------------------------
$0400000000 Description : NVIDIA nForce2
$0400000001 Vendor ID : 10de (NVIDIA)
$0400000002 Device ID : 01e0
$0400000003 AGP bus : revision 3.0
$0400000004 AGP status : enabled
$0400000005 AGP rate : 4x 8x supported, 8x selected
$0400000006 AGP SBA : hardwired, enabled
$0400000007 AGP FW : supported, enabled
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff Display adapter information
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$0000000000 Description : NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS/XT
$0000000001 Vendor ID : 10de (NVIDIA)
$0000000002 Device ID : 00f6
$0000000003 Location : bus 2, device 0, function 0
$0000000004 Bus type : AGP revision 3.0
$0000000005 AGP status : enabled
$0000000006 AGP rate : 4x 8x supported, 8x selected
$0000000007 AGP SBA : hardwired, enabled
$0000000008 AGP FW : supported, enabled
$0000000009 Base address 0 : e4000000 (memory range)
$000000000a Base address 1 : d0000000 (memory range)
$000000000b Base address 2 : e5000000 (memory range)
$000000000c Base address 3 : none
$000000000d Base address 4 : none
$000000000e Base address 5 : none
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$ffffffffff NVIDIA specific display adapter information
$ffffffffff ----------------------------------------------------------------
$0100000000 Graphics core : NV42 revision A1 (12pp,5vp)
$0100000001 Hardwired ID : 00c0 (ROM strapped to 00c0)
$0100000002 Memory bus : 256-bit
$0100000003 Memory type : DDR3 (RAM configuration 07)
$0100000004 Memory amount : 262144KB
$0100000005 Core clock : 351.000MHz
$0100000006 Memory clock : 598.500MHz (1197.000MHz effective)
$0100000007 Reference clock : 27.000MHz
$010000000c HSI bridge : BR02 PCIE-to-AGP

dsio 15th July, 2006 09:01 AM

Yet another very interesting videocard.

Your card is a PCI-E core, running a HSI bridge, on an AGP board. As a result you have an NV42 core, which is made on a 110nm process.

As a result, you have NO unlocking available on that board at all. Don't even try, because doesn't have any unused pipelines on it at all.

The flip side is, your 110nm chip overclocks very, very well. 450Mhz should be very easy.

What are you currently clocking it to? and what drivers are you using?

SwissArmyKnight 15th July, 2006 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsio
Your card is a PCI-E core, running a HSI bridge, on an AGP board. As a result you have an NV42 core, which is made on a 110nm process.

Where the heck did you get this info from? I searched high and low to know why my card is a 42. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsio
As a result, you have NO unlocking available on that board at all. Don't even try, because doesn't have any unused pipelines on it at all.

Life is tough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsio
The flip side is, your 110nm chip overclocks very, very well. 450Mhz should be very easy.

What are you currently clocking it to? and what drivers are you using?

Tbh I'm not overclocking at all. I have installed Coolbits v2.0 and ready to go. I am running the latest ForceWare Release 90 drivers (91.31) from the nVidia site.

So you reckon crank core clock uit up to 450 eh? What about memory clock?

dsio 15th July, 2006 11:59 AM

Memory will clock up a bit, but not that much. Your DDR speed is quite good as it is. I got the info from what I know about Nvidia cores, and the technical information you pasted above. Its an interesting card indeed.

450 would be about average, and with some luck, a bit of cooling, and possibly a volt mod, 500+ is possible. Ive seen NV42s on water into the 600Mhz range easily.

Let us know how far you get with it.

Deadman93723 15th July, 2006 10:43 PM

New PSU and Pixel Pipes
 
I have recently found out my problems with my 6800GS agp stem from not enough amperage from my PSU. I am upgrading my PSU from a Antec TrueBlue 480w, to a OCZ Powerstream 600w.

My question is, I can unlock my Pixel Pipes but I get a thin line of snow in the middle of the screen, with a better PSU and proper amperage, might this snow go away or are the pixel pipes just bad?

Redroar 16th July, 2006 04:19 AM

If there wasn't enough amps then it would probably be more likely system instability than snow. I think artifacts are common of extra pipelines. As they aren't designed to be used, they can be incapable of displaying properly.

dsio 16th July, 2006 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadman93723
I have recently found out my problems with my 6800GS agp stem from not enough amperage from my PSU. I am upgrading my PSU from a Antec TrueBlue 480w, to a OCZ Powerstream 600w.

My question is, I can unlock my Pixel Pipes but I get a thin line of snow in the middle of the screen, with a better PSU and proper amperage, might this snow go away or are the pixel pipes just bad?

A small voltage increase may help solve your problem. Perhaps 1.5V or in that order, and an AGP voltage increase to 1.6-1.625V wouldn't go astray. If the voltage doesn't solve your pipeline artifact issue, it will still let you overclock more.

Failing that, you might just have a bad pipeline, in which case, you can still enable the extra vertex units, but leave that extra quad turned off.

Deadman93723 18th July, 2006 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsio
A small voltage increase may help solve your problem. Perhaps 1.5V or in that order, and an AGP voltage increase to 1.6-1.625V wouldn't go astray. If the voltage doesn't solve your pipeline artifact issue, it will still let you overclock more.

Failing that, you might just have a bad pipeline, in which case, you can still enable the extra vertex units, but leave that extra quad turned off.

Do you mean a video card bios voltage increase, or a system bios voltage increase?

Samuknow 18th July, 2006 06:59 PM

It seems both..

Mod the card bios to 1.5 and then change the board bios AGP controller voltage to 1.6-1.625.

mbataka 19th July, 2006 03:36 PM

Hey Lord need bios
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord_Nerevar
got a problem with it, just get a new Palit 6800 GS 512 mb but look :
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6...vatuner6fc.jpg
where are the O/C options :/ ?

Hi Lord_nerevar could you post the bios of your Palit 6800GS 512?. Is your Palit looks like this? ,http://www.icomp.pl/thumb.php?sz=400...1145469769.jpg I have almost identical (Diablotek) card and have a lot of problems with this. Need bios from your card. Tnx alot.

Deadman93723 20th July, 2006 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuknow
It seems both..

Mod the card bios to 1.5 and then change the board bios AGP controller voltage to 1.6-1.625.

I already have the agp voltage in the system bios at 1.6v. I tried 1.35v, 1.4v, and 1.5v in the video card bios, they all made the card go crazy. I don't think the voltage regulator on the card can handle more than 1.3v.

Samuknow 20th July, 2006 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadman93723
I already have the agp voltage in the system bios at 1.6v. I tried 1.35v, 1.4v, and 1.5v in the video card bios, they all made the card go crazy. I don't think the voltage regulator on the card can handle more than 1.3v.


Mine has been fine at 1.5 for some time.

If it is freaking out I would leave it alone. It may be trying to tell you something.

Samuknow 20th July, 2006 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbataka
Hi Lord_nerevar could you post the bios of your Palit 6800GS 512?. Is your Palit looks like this? ,http://www.icomp.pl/thumb.php?sz=400...1145469769.jpg I have almost identical (Diablotek) card and have a lot of problems with this. Need bios from your card. Tnx alot.

You might be using too old of a driver to recognize the 512 GS card. Try the latest nVidia drivers and see if it appears...

Deadman93723 20th July, 2006 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuknow
Mine has been fine at 1.5 for some time.

If it is freaking out I would leave it alone. It may be trying to tell you something.

Yeah, that I can't up the voltage, oh well. I have it running 12/6 @ 435/1160, not bad.

Klick 23rd July, 2006 08:22 AM

i was wondering since in 2 days im going to be getting a XFX 6800 GS extreme edition agp for $100 if anyone has done unlocking on one or can say what core it is because id love topull down a GT or Ultra for a fraction of what they went for not too long ago

dsio 23rd July, 2006 08:28 AM

It should well work. When you get the card, let us know how it goes for you.

Samuknow 24th July, 2006 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klick
i was wondering since in 2 days im going to be getting a XFX 6800 GS extreme edition agp for $100 if anyone has done unlocking on one or can say what core it is because id love topull down a GT or Ultra for a fraction of what they went for not too long ago


That should work great. Great deal on that card BTW.

Keep us posted and feel free to ask any questions.:)

Deadman93723 24th July, 2006 11:16 PM

Breakthrough
 
I was able to open up my pixel pipes to 16, the only downside is, every once in awhile I will see a little bit of snow in the center of the screen. If I am playing FEAR, or something, with all the action, I never notice the snow, good enough for me.

Samuknow 24th July, 2006 11:44 PM

Check your temps. Keeping it cool can help with artifacts.

Klick 25th July, 2006 10:40 PM

Well i got the card today and as it turns out it was a PNY verto 6800 GS so yea i was a little disappointed but it didnt end there either it seems i have a 12pp 6vp card as i get artifacts on the desktop pretty hardcore when i enable the masked quad but i was wondering if i got the card to run cooler would that make a difference? and also if i wasnt getting enough juice from my PSU would that make a difference? i currently have a 450W no name PSU that has servered two builds faithfully i had it in a Atlon XP 2800+ and my Athlon 64 3000+ and it runs fine but could it be a weak link possibly?

Deadman93723 26th July, 2006 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klick
Well i got the card today and as it turns out it was a PNY verto 6800 GS so yea i was a little disappointed but it didnt end there either it seems i have a 12pp 6vp card as i get artifacts on the desktop pretty hardcore when i enable the masked quad but i was wondering if i got the card to run cooler would that make a difference? and also if i wasnt getting enough juice from my PSU would that make a difference? i currently have a 450W no name PSU that has servered two builds faithfully i had it in a Atlon XP 2800+ and my Athlon 64 3000+ and it runs fine but could it be a weak link possibly?

I have a eVGA 6800GS and I get some very minor snow when I open the 4th quad, but only in 3d mode. You are asking the very same questions I was asking. I replaced stock heatsink with a AC NV5 rev.3, I updated my PSU from an Antec TrueBlue 480w, to a OCZ Powerstream 600w and neither one of those helped with the snow in 3d mode. When a quad is bad, it is bad, nothing you can do about it. Yeah, I know, it sucks, but 12pp,6vp is not bad, and my card overclocks like crazy as yours should, too.

Now, about your Athlon 64 3000+ goes, I am an Intel guy, so I don't know if your CPU is a weak link or not, I doubt it, if you are overclocking it, then it should be fine.

Samuknow 26th July, 2006 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klick
Well i got the card today and as it turns out it was a PNY verto 6800 GS so yea i was a little disappointed but it didnt end there either it seems i have a 12pp 6vp card as i get artifacts on the desktop pretty hardcore when i enable the masked quad but i was wondering if i got the card to run cooler would that make a difference? and also if i wasnt getting enough juice from my PSU would that make a difference? i currently have a 450W no name PSU that has servered two builds faithfully i had it in a Atlon XP 2800+ and my Athlon 64 3000+ and it runs fine but could it be a weak link possibly?


I think your CPU is fine...

As far as your card goes, Deadman said it right....But there is nothing stopping you from OCing it till it screams..

You should still get a decent gain just from a good OC....

Klick 27th July, 2006 07:55 AM

well that kinda sucks about the extra quad but life goes on besides for the price i couldnt turn it down

btw are these clocks ok at this temp?
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1...tempmf8.th.jpg

Samuknow 27th July, 2006 12:26 PM

Sure, looks fine...What is your peak temp after benching?

Rondog 27th July, 2006 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klick
well that kinda sucks about the extra quad but life goes on besides for the price i couldnt turn it down

btw are these clocks ok at this temp?
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1...tempmf8.th.jpg

Deus Ex. WHAT A GAME!!!!

Nice selection of games on the desktop mate. :)

Samuknow 27th July, 2006 01:38 PM

I haven't played that in ages...

Deadman93723 27th July, 2006 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klick
well that kinda sucks about the extra quad but life goes on besides for the price i couldnt turn it down

btw are these clocks ok at this temp?
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1...tempmf8.th.jpg

If your on stock cooling, those temps are very good. But, like Samuknow said watch your load temps.

Klick 28th July, 2006 02:34 AM

Is 72 C to around 77 C on the GPU after some hardcore oblivion ok temps? yes im running stock cooling on it but would taking off the HSF lapping it then using some AS5 on show any tangable temp drops?

dsio 28th July, 2006 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klick
Is 72 C to around 77 C on the GPU after some hardcore oblivion ok temps? yes im running stock cooling on it but would taking off the HSF lapping it then using some AS5 on show any tangable temp drops?

Yea, you could knock a couple of degrees off with a quality AS5 job and a lapping. You can also have your HSF surface polished to a perfect mirror finish by a jewler if you're willing to part with $5-10

Samuknow 28th July, 2006 01:18 PM

That is a little higher than I would like...

Do you have good airflow around your card?

dsio 28th July, 2006 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samuknow
That is a little higher than I would like...

Do you have good airflow around your card?

This is a good point. Moving PCI cards lower down, at best, stacking them one on top of eachother at the absolute bottom would improve things a bit.

Deadman93723 28th July, 2006 06:44 PM

Klick, you might want to think about getting an Arctic Cooling NV5 rev.3, they are pretty cheap, and cool quite well. On my 6800GS, I'm getting an idle temp of 48c, and a heavy load temp of 65c. The NV5 is bulky, it is about an inch high, so you will need an open PCI slot under your video card, it also vents out the back, it comes with a bracket to put in the slot under the card, anyways, they the NV5 is pretty cool(no pun intended).:thumbsup:

shady 2nd August, 2006 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsio
Yet another very interesting videocard.

Your card is a PCI-E core, running a HSI bridge, on an AGP board. As a result you have an NV42 core, which is made on a 110nm process.

As a result, you have NO unlocking available on that board at all. Don't even try, because doesn't have any unused pipelines on it at all.

The flip side is, your 110nm chip overclocks very, very well. 450Mhz should be very easy.

What are you currently clocking it to? and what drivers are you using?


Bugger! I searched around for a great card and assumed wrongly that I could open the 4 pipes on my new XpertVision GS6800 but I get the same swissarmyknight, the extra pipes do not come up as masked, theres nothing there. I am assuming that I have one another of those rare NV42 core cards..NOT HAPPY JAN!
Do you reckon they'll take it back? I can only try.

dsio 2nd August, 2006 10:49 AM

You really can't, and shouldn't. There is nothing wrong with NV42s at all. They overclock extremely well, which makes up for the lack of unlockable pipes.

piele 5th August, 2006 11:22 PM

Hello. I'm all new in this. I'll try to be short. I have a Palit GF6800GS, 256 MB GDD3 and RivaTuner "says" that I have an N41 chip. The core is 450 and the mems are 1257 Mhz (that 57 is "my work", playing with the sliders).

And Riva also "said" that I don't have that "extra-tricky" bits.

1. Why NV41?

2. Why "no tricky bits"?

Thank you a lot. And pardon me for the bad english.

Catalin

dsio 6th August, 2006 01:49 AM

NV41 because Palit is a cheaper brand, thats trying to cut costs by using NV41 chips instead of better NV40/NV42 chips. No tricky bits because that particular core only has 12 pipes at a hardware level.


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