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Old 13th February, 2009, 04:22 AM
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preferred soft for bootable .iso

What are some suggestions for a software to create a bootable .iso of a Linux installation?

I am having a bit of difficulty getting Remastersys to work properly - is there another candidate?
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Are we talking a live cd with an image of your installation on it, a rescue cd or somewhat of a generic application live cd.

I build my own install and live cd's for gentoo using Catalyst..

Rescue or boot CD's can be made within linux without the need for third party software.

Building a restore CD is something I have not attempted. I keep a back up tar'd on my server, if I need to reinstall I boot an install cd, create my partitions and filesystems, then just untar from my server and reboot..
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Old 13th February, 2009, 06:29 PM
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Yeah, it's to make a live CD of my install.

I have finally gotten the software to work, and it works quite well. [Problem was I had a version that wasn't up-to-date with my Xubuntu version.] It will create either a full live cd .iso for burning, or a distributable copy without a /home directory, so it can be given to others. Kinda like making your own Distro.

It is for Debian and derivatives only, though:

Remastersys project
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Very cool! ":O}
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Sounds interesting, but how could I use that? So someone could install my Fedora with my settings and updates?
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Old 19th February, 2009, 03:49 AM
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Exactly. But unfortunately it's for Debian derivatives so I'm not too sure it would work for you. I have used it successfully with both Ubuntu and Xubuntu since working out the kinks in the install.

I have made a live cd that its complete for my own use, and another that is without my /home, so that I can give it to others.
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thats pretty cool. I may look into it for my potential clients.
It would be cool to allow them to install Fedora with all my updates, programs and settings. Then I can troubleshoot Fedora if they have problems because I have the same installation
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You do understand that it probably won't work on Fedora??

I believe on Fedora a similar app is named Revisor.
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yes, and after playing with SuSe and Fedora, I'm not so scared to try out ubuntu or other distros. I was more curious about the concept.
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Just for laughs, and to check if it works, I used my newly-made .iso to restore my installation. Everything looked ok until I hit the grub menu...

I had to edit both fstab and menu.lst using a live cd. This is because the UUIDs were different from the previous install, and so the boot drive couldn't be mounted. I had to look at blkid, which outputs the UUIDs of all connected drives, and then change the reference to the devices in the two files.

Other than that, it worked perfectly. I would recommend it to any Debian-derivative user.

Just for my own information, what is responsible for generating the UUIDs for connected drives? I noticed that it affected only the boot drive with /, /home, and /swap. The UUID of a connected storage drive for my data was unchanged.
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UUID is set by just about every facet of the drive or partition, size, filesystem, placement on drive etc etc. If anything changes the uuid changes. It is set using an algorithm.

I imagine you installed your backup to a different drive/partition which would change the uuid, where there were no changes to the storage partition so the uuid was unchanged.

Edit:: I'm thinking we could pass a script to the installer to change the UUID in fstab and grub.

I am interested in your project and am thinking it could be used to assemble a simple yet effective distribution we could host here on AOA. Maybe we can get together when I have some more time and do something of that nature.
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The .iso installs a "install" script on the desktop, just like any normal live-type CD distro. I used this to install the contents to the drive. When I got to the partitioner, I formatted / and /swap, leaving /home intact (there would not have been any changes there anyhow, I should have been able to format /home as well).

So I was installing to exactly the same partition as before, but the UUID changed. I thought as you do, that if it was the same partition the UUID would be unchanged, but it was not the case. Maybe it was the formatting.

Perhaps there would be a way for the installer to see those changes and rewrite grub, et al... Luckily I knew what to do, but a true beginner would not have a clue unless aided. It requires using a live CD, being able to mount the partitions, then editing; or directly editing grub from the grub prompt to be able to boot, for which one would need the new UUIDs in hand.

There's also one more hurdle, and that is the installation of proprietary drivers like NVidia's glx. It's not a big deal but AFAICT they have to be reinstalled anew after the restore, shutting down the gui and using the NVIDIA.sh flavor of the month. I used the opportunity to update my drivers and it worked fine, simultaneously activating Compiz, which of course has a glx dependency, on my Xubuntu box.

As an idea of a pretty interesting and unbloated distro that includes some nice desktop looks you might take a look at this one. I thought of recommending it for Daniel before you guys got his Fedora mojo worked out:

Excelixis Linux http://excelixis.wordpress.com

It's a nice-looking, slimmed-down Xubuntu, the .iso is only about 1.4G. It won't use XFCE in its next version, though - it's moving to GNOME.
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The script is pretty simple, but I will have to check out the tool a little to see where it would load up at.
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I will be taking excelixus for a test drive sometime soon. The gnome edition would be worth waiting for as there are not many people out there that see the beauty of Xfce as we do.

Not much we can do with the nvidia drivers, they can't be distributed with the OS, same as proprietary codecs. While it would be possible to write a simple install script that kills X installs the drivers and runs nvidia-xconfig I'm not sure if that's cool either.

I've wanted to put together a distro for awhile. I have a Gentoo based OS using E17 for the WM that I have passed on to a couple of friends. It is quite good but being based on Gentoo and using more overlays than I care to count takes it out of the realm of new-user-friendly. Plus there isn't an installer so it has to be done manually.

I was going to base my next effort on Debian or Slack, both of which I am comfortable with so it would make it easy enoug to support.
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When you're ready, let me know what I can do to help
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I have a spare Hard Drive installed and waiting... I like to play to! ":O}
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I have a spare Hard Drive installed and waiting... I like to play to! ":O}
I'll be getting it together pretty soon.

You're more than welcome to play with my Gentoo disk though. No official support for that one though. With the flags I passed to the compiler and the state of the packages used it would be impossible to track down problems. It is quite fun and very fast though..
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Didn't mean to rush, only to encourage! It's more than exciting enough for me when fully supported! LOL":O}
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Didn't mean to rush, only to encourage! It's more than exciting enough for me when fully supported! LOL":O}
The problem with the Gentoo distro I built is, if it doesn't work the only people you can go to is the developer. They lack a sense of humor. Just to lighten the mood that I am creating I will share a story.

I was checking out some of the latest and greatest alpha packages linux had to offer and ran into one that wouldn't work. I don't remember the exact version number but I do remember it ending in r21. So we'll just say .0.8.7-r21

I'm sitting at my rig with a jack and coke, and this package is just giving me fits. I look up the developer and find him on chat with the sole purpose of having a little fun.

Me: 21 attempts and this package is still screwed up?

Dev: It's an alpha, if you don't like it, don't use it!

Me: I can't use it, it's broken. You've known it was broken for the last 21 attempts to fix it. (then I go make me another jack and coke while I laugh)

Dev: I don't do this for a living.

Me: It's hard to find someone to pay you for stuff that doesn't work.

Dev: (cannot be repeated)

Me: You spelled "mother" wrong, could be an indication of what's wrong with your code.

Dev: (cannot be repeated)

Me: Maybe you should get rid of the mold in your mother's basement, at 47 I imagine it has taken a toll on you.

Dev: Leave me alone.. If you can do better, then do so.

Me: I've had it fixed since r7.

Dev: Bull%^$#.

Me: I'm just busting your balls, get away from the keyboard and go have a beer, should see my bug report by the time you get back. Hope it helps.

Dev: I hate people!

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Haha.
A better one is when, in his efforts to fix something, a new r# breaks stuff that he wasn't trying to fix. You could really have fun with that.
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