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Old 5th August, 2010, 03:30 PM
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Stinking ATI Drivers!

I have installed theATI drivers about 8 times and fglrxinfo still won't show the Radeon 9600 pro.
I tried install driver 8.542 on X.Org 7.1 or later with automatic and custom settings.
I also tried a newer driver right from the ATI website and still no success.
I do the command
Code:
aticonfig --initial -f
after each install and even use Ctrl+Shift+Backspace to refresh the X.Org
still no success.
Just this morning I tried doing a distro specific installation by adding
Code:
--buildpkg Fedora/F8
but I get an error about the Kernel.
It suggests that I may have to install Kernel-Header or Kernel-Devel
So I did some research and found some packages in my Add/Remove for Kernel-Devel
But no success.
I know this card and this driver works because I have been using it for over 2 years, but I did reinstall Fedora 8, so something must be different.

I'm about to downgrade to a GeForce 6200 and try the Nvidia drivers instead.
Let me know if you have any tips or at least another site I can research...
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nVidia has caused me issues in the past - haven't had to use ATI, but the following may help.

Make sure you only have the latest kernal and linux-image/header/etc installed as it may not build the correct one.

Ubuntu has a package build-essential which is a meta package with all the requirements for building packages, Fedora probably has the same/equivalent which may need to be installed.

Check the requirements and recommendations are installed, they have a pdf with them here: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...cat92-inst.pdf

If you are using 64bit you will need the 32bit packages that they require as well.


If you are doing this via command line, there should be a flag like --trace that will give lots of information and should show any errors when you are building. Then someone with a lot more experience than me here should be able to help.
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thanks for the tips Noob.
I am running 2.6.26.8-57.fc8 32-bit version
I have already downloaded the pdf from ati and read through it several times.
I don't know how to verify if I have all the right requirements...
Like:

• XFree86-Mesa-libGL
• libstdc++
• libgcc
• XFree86-libs
• fontconfig
• freetype
• zlib
• gcc

should I just go online and download each of these?
Will it screw up my kernel to just randomly install stuff I already have?
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Old 7th August, 2010, 02:59 PM
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that was quick....
will the package name be the same as what ATI requres?
example:
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dpkg -l | grep XFree86-Mesa-libGL
or

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dpkg -l | grep libstdc++
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I just deleted my msg, that's for debian and derivatives. Don't think fedora would have dpkg. But that is the correct syntax. Won't hurt to try, but I don't think it will work.
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nope, they don't, I just checked
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Old 7th August, 2010, 03:07 PM
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Try:
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packagename --version
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the command is "yum"
Code:
yum provides
and just enter the package name to search for it

To install type:
Code:
yum install
and it will search for the package. update works the same way.

Code:
yum update XFree86-Mesa-libGL
which by the way, was the only one yum couldn't find.
I'm going to search for XFree86-Mesa-libGL package and install it.
Then I'll try the ATI drivers again.
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Well, yeah, yum is the package manager for fedora, like dpkg is for debian. It's not something you want/need to install on another distro.

Code:
man yum
would give you the details for its use.
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right. its Fedora only.
But at least its somewhere to start
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I found an XFree86 rpm but there is an error when installing it.
XFree86 conflicts with mesa-libGL-7.0.2-3.fc8.i386
I have tried all the yum searches for XFree86, but nothing comes up.
I'll search some more for Fedora 8 and XFree86
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I got this strange error when using:
Code:
X_VERSION=710 ./ati-driver-installer-8-10-x86.x86_64.run
Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
default:v2:i686:lib:x710:710:2.6.26.8-57.fc8; make sure that the version is being
correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
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I tried again and got these errors:

[Message] Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[Message] Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.
[Error] Kernel Module : No kernel module build environment - please consult readme.

obviously a kernel problem, but where do I start to remedy it?

Not to mention, I put an old GeForce 6200 in my Linux and the package wouldn't even start to install. So I'm back to my Radeon 9600 pro.
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I'd guess that you don't have the ati kernel source installed; I only know about nvidia, but I have to have a package installed called nvidia-kernel-source, or the driver module won't build. Is there an equivalent for ati?

Sorry I can't help more. You really need gizmo or dsio for Fedora.
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A couple of glitches with ATi drivers:

1) ATi have removed support for a whole load of their older graphics cards (including the 9600 pro), putting them into a legacy driver which receives no updates other than the occasional fix to make them work with newer X servers. More on that here: ATI Catalyst? Proprietary Display Driver

2) To install any ATi driver on any system, you need to have the Linux kernel build environment in place. It'll be the same for nVidia and ATi. If you don't have such a thing, then you can create your own thus:

i) download and install the linux source RPM (or deb if that's your flavour) for your distro and kernel version (may be .srpm) EDIT: health warning - make sure you use only the one from your distro's own repository and that its version and patch level matches exactly the kernel running on your system, and not the vanilla kernel from kernel.org, otherwise it may not work.
ii) check if /proc/config.gz exists. If so, as root type:
zcat /proc/config.gz > /usr/src/linux/.config
iii) cd /usr/src/linux
make && make modules
iv) now try installing your graphics driver of choice

These steps install the kernel source and compile it using your distro's standard config, but doesn't install it. This means that all the headers, symbols and object files the ATi/nVidia installer needs are in place ready to go.

For the Radeon 9600, do consider the open source radeon driver. It's really rather good.
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Thanks Kaitain, I'll try your steps today, but before I do that, I'm going to post the possible kernel source, headers, devel that can be downloaded for Fedora 8.
There are a whole bunch of them and I don't want any that I DON"T need.

by the way, since I was messing with the kernels I screwed up Fedora 8 and had to reinstall again. I had everything back in order in less than an hour because last time, I took notes.
So everything is refreshed to the original installation without updates.
I still get the same kernel error when I install the ATI drivers too...
There is an "open source radeon" driver?
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Yes... but not an advanced one with Fedora 8, as it's only really become good in the last 6 months or so.
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I did some searching this morning for Radeon Open source drivers and found this one: xf86-video-ati-6.13.1.tar.gz
It wasn't distro specific though. I'm going to try your first solution then I'll try it.
Do you have any resources I can search to find Radeon Open source Drivers for Fedora 8?
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here are the available updates:

Kernel-xen-devel 2.6.21-2950.fc8.i686
kernel-headers 2.6.23.1-42.fc8.i386
kernel-PAE 2.6.23.1-42.fc8.i686
kernel-debug-devel 2.6.23.1-42.fc8.i686
kernel-xen 2.6.21-2950.fc8.i686
kernel-devel 2.6.23.1-42.fc8.i586
kernel 2.6.23.1-42.fc8.i586
yum-kernel-module 1.1.8-1.fc8.noarch
kernel-debug 2.6.23.1-42.fc8.i686

I currently have kernel 2.6.23.1-42.fc8

Are any of these required for the ATI drivers?
I know that adding them won't hurt anything, but still may not allow the ATI drivers to work correctly.
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If you're currently running kernel 2.6.23.1-42.fc8, then the source rpm for kernel 2.6.23.1-42.fc8 would be the correct one to install.m EDIT: if you don't already have kernel-headers-2.6.23.1-42.fc8 installed, install those then try to install the ATi driver again.

The video driver file you found for open source radeon is the correct (and latest) one, but won't work with your present system as it needs kernel support (>=2.6.32) and the latest X and mesa versions, which Fedora 8 doesn't support. Fedora 8 will come with a much older version of the radeon driver... which is probably what you're currently using, if ATi's driver isn't installed.
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