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Old 14th October, 2010, 07:43 PM
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With the arrival of Ubuntu 10.10, the list of reasons to try Linux for your business just got a little longer. The free and open source operating system is now more user-friendly than it's ever been before while still offering the many security and other advantages it has over its competitors.

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Any business that allows users to run with administrator privileges on their desktops has huge gaping security hole...
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Unfortunately, the sad reality is that there is still a lot of Windows software being used (and especially purpose-built software) in the business world which won't work properly without admin rights. Too many programmers don't properly understand where and how they are allowed to access info. Plus, Microsoft have changed the recommended guidelines for how apps are supposed to store info numerous times over the years, and there are still a fair number of older 9x systems out there that people are developing for.

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9x has never been a business platform, and is so far out of support and riddled with holes it isn't funny. In my somewhat limited corporate experience, I've tended to note that a lot of organisations I work with do not permit users to have any form of administrator privileges.

I've noted that dev tools seem to be the worst for assuming that the user has admin privileges, and failing to work correctly when they don't.
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I bought Modern Warfare 2 and even it needs to be run with elevated privileges.
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My present employer gives all staff guys admin rights to their assigned computer: only contractors are restricted. I have no idea why, but have enough respect for the IT guys not to abuse the privilege.

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I'd have gone with a different top five:

1) Ubuntu is not Linux
2) Gnome and KDE are not Linux
3) Just because you don't have 300MB of crapware and yet another useless icon in your system tray doesn't mean you don't already have a driver for it.
4) If you run as root and trash your system, people won't try to sell you a $99 system-cleaner app. They will laugh at you, though.
5) Linux will not save you from yourself. If you do silly things like click on phishing links, you're still going to lose your shirt.
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6. Use windows to stay on the safe side !

Windows by Microsoft will save you from yourself !!!
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9x has never been a business platform, and is so far out of support and riddled with holes it isn't funny.
None of which has any bearing on the fact that it is, in fact, used by a lot of small businesses and non-profits

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In my somewhat limited corporate experience, I've tended to note that a lot of organisations I work with do not permit users to have any form of administrator privileges.
In a corporate environment it is certainly more true that there will be security policies in place that will provide a bit more of a structured environment. Never-the-less, even there it's not unusual to find at least one machine that is running a, shall we say "Less than secure configuration" because of some obscure software package that is needed and only runs in that environment. For small businesses, on the other hand, they usually can't even afford an IT person, much less an IT person that actually has a clue. Couple this with the fact that, quite frequently, the person in charge of the company doesn't understand all 'that security stuff', or why he should put up with restrictions on what he can do with his computer (after all, he paid for it, why can't he use it the way he wants to?), and then add into that the fact that software packages used by small businesses trend in the direction of 'quick and dirty' with poor security policies in themselves, and you end up with a LOT of machines running in administrator mode.

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Hahahaha I couldn't help it ! really !!!

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My present employer gives all staff guys admin rights to their assigned computer: only contractors are restricted. I have no idea why, but have enough respect for the IT guys not to abuse the privilege.

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I'd have gone with a different top five:

1) Ubuntu is not Linux
2) Gnome and KDE are not Linux
3) Just because you don't have 300MB of crapware and yet another useless icon in your system tray doesn't mean you don't already have a driver for it.
4) If you run as root and trash your system, people won't try to sell you a $99 system-cleaner app. They will laugh at you, though.
5) Linux will not save you from yourself. If you do silly things like click on phishing links, you're still going to lose your shirt.
With number 3, I recently installed a HP printer on Win7 that actually had a driver DVD rather than a CD, and required 1.9GB of disk space to install the "driver suite".

The thing you have to remember is some programmer had to write all that crud.
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None of which has any bearing on the fact that it is, in fact, used by a lot of small businesses and non-profits
Non-profits can usually do pretty well by examining various programs that are available. For instance, a number of non-profits in the UK are able to pick up Windows 7 32 bit upgrade for about £5, and a copy of Windows 2008 Small Business Server Premium for about £39.
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6. Use windows to stay on the safe side !

Windows by Microsoft will save you from yourself !!!
Then give you to who ever comes along...I trust myself more than that...I trust Linux to a lest try to treat me well.
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In a corporate environment it is certainly more true that there will be security policies in place that will provide a bit more of a structured environment. Never-the-less, even there it's not unusual to find at least one machine that is running a, shall we say "Less than secure configuration" because of some obscure software package that is needed and only runs in that environment. For small businesses, on the other hand, they usually can't even afford an IT person, much less an IT person that actually has a clue. Couple this with the fact that, quite frequently, the person in charge of the company doesn't understand all 'that security stuff', or why he should put up with restrictions on what he can do with his computer (after all, he paid for it, why can't he use it the way he wants to?), and then add into that the fact that software packages used by small businesses trend in the direction of 'quick and dirty' with poor security policies in themselves, and you end up with a LOT of machines running in administrator mode.
This is the company I work at. No IT person and everyone has administrative access. So I usually end up cleanup the mess they make on their computers and on the server. Luckily they can't log into the server as administrator, but everyone seems to needs access to every folder because employees multi-task.
At least we finally started buying company owned laptops for the designers instead of using their own. That was a mess, specially with installing AutoCAD.
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