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GPU3 and WINE I finally got some time to play around with WINE on my Gentoo machine. I was able to get the Cuda toolkit and the wrappers installed, as well as the client. I followed [generally, with some amendments, since the guide is for Ubuntu] these instructions: Folding Forum • View topic - NVIDIA GPU3 Linux/Wine Headless Install Guide Everything went smoothly, until I attempted to start the client: Code: thunderrd@Q6600:~/FAH-GPU$ nice wine Folding@home-Win32-gpu.exe -verbosity 9 -forcegpu nvidia_g80 Note: Please read the license agreement (Folding@home-Win32-gpu.exe -license). Further use of this software requires that you have read and accepted this agreement. [06:57:02] Gpu type=2 species=11. --- Opening Log file [September 27 06:57:02 UTC] # Windows GPU Console Edition ################################################# ############################################################################### Folding@Home Client Version 6.41r2 http://folding.stanford.edu ############################################################################### ############################################################################### Launch directory: Z:\home\thunderrd\FAH-GPU Executable: Z:\home\thunderrd\FAH-GPU\Folding@home-Win32-gpu.exe Arguments: -verbosity 9 -forcegpu nvidia_g80 [06:57:02] - Ask before connecting: No [06:57:02] - User name: ThunderRd (Team 45) [06:57:02] - User ID: 69564AF90E834044 [06:57:02] - Machine ID: 2 [06:57:02] [06:57:02] Gpu type=2 species=11. [06:57:02] Loaded queue successfully. [06:57:02] [06:57:02] - Autosending finished units... [September 27 06:57:02 UTC] [06:57:02] + Processing work unit [06:57:02] Trying to send all finished work units [06:57:02] + No unsent completed units remaining. [06:57:02] Core required: FahCore_11.exe [06:57:02] - Autosend completed [06:57:02] Core found. [06:57:02] Working on queue slot 01 [September 27 06:57:02 UTC] [06:57:02] + Working ... [06:57:02] - Calling '.\FahCore_11.exe -dir work/ -suffix 01 -nice 19 -checkpoint 15 -verbose -lifeline 8 -version 641' [06:57:02] [06:57:02] *------------------------------* [06:57:02] Folding@Home GPU Core [06:57:02] Version 1.31 (Tue Sep 15 10:57:42 PDT 2009) [06:57:02] [06:57:02] Compiler : Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 14.00.50727.762 for 80x86 [06:57:02] Build host: amoeba [06:57:02] Board Type: Nvidia [06:57:02] Core : [06:57:02] Preparing to commence simulation [06:57:02] - Ensuring status. Please wait. [06:57:12] - Looking at optimizations... [06:57:12] - Working with standard loops on this execution. [06:57:12] - Previous termination of core was improper. [06:57:12] - Going to use standard loops. [06:57:12] - Files status OK [06:57:12] - Expanded 45423 -> 251112 (decompressed 552.8 percent) [06:57:12] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=45423 data_size=251112, decompressed_data_size=251112 diff=0 [06:57:12] - Digital signature verified [06:57:12] [06:57:12] Project: 5769 (Run 9, Clone 247, Gen 2951) [06:57:12] [06:57:12] Entering M.D. [06:57:18] Tpr hash work/wudata_01.tpr: 3313734608 2409987814 4274655210 188962676 3431777749 [06:57:18] [06:57:18] Calling fah_main args: 14 usage=100 [06:57:18] [06:57:21] CoreStatus = 63 (99) [06:57:21] + Error starting Folding@Home core. [06:57:26] [06:57:26] + Processing work unit [06:57:26] Core required: FahCore_11.exe [06:57:26] Core found. [06:57:26] Working on queue slot 01 [September 27 06:57:26 UTC] [06:57:26] + Working ... [06:57:26] - Calling '.\FahCore_11.exe -dir work/ -suffix 01 -nice 19 -checkpoint 15 -verbose -lifeline 8 -version 641' [06:57:26] [06:57:26] *------------------------------* [06:57:26] Folding@Home GPU Core [06:57:26] Version 1.31 (Tue Sep 15 10:57:42 PDT 2009) [06:57:26] [06:57:26] Compiler : Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 14.00.50727.762 for 80x86 [06:57:26] Build host: amoeba [06:57:26] Board Type: Nvidia [06:57:26] Core : [06:57:26] Preparing to commence simulation [06:57:26] - Ensuring status. Please wait. ^C[06:57:28] ***** Got a SIGTERM signal (2) [06:57:28] Killing all core threads Folding@Home Client Shutdown
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The FAHWiki said this about 63... I'm not sure it's useful though - it came from here. Quote:
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Solved the 63 = (99) by creating symlinks to the cuda files in the .wine directory in the GPU directory itself. Now, the client starts, but hangs: Code: thunderrd@Q6600:~/FAH-GPU$ nice wine Folding@home-Win32-gpu.exe -verbosity 9 -forcegpu nvidia_fermi Note: Please read the license agreement (Folding@home-Win32-gpu.exe -license). Further use of this software requires that you have read and accepted this agreement. [04:13:54] Gpu type=3 species=20. --- Opening Log file [September 28 04:13:54 UTC] # Windows GPU Console Edition ################################################# ############################################################################### Folding@Home Client Version 6.41r2 http://folding.stanford.edu ############################################################################### ############################################################################### Launch directory: Z:\home\thunderrd\FAH-GPU Executable: Z:\home\thunderrd\FAH-GPU\Folding@home-Win32-gpu.exe Arguments: -verbosity 9 -forcegpu nvidia_fermi [04:13:54] - Ask before connecting: No [04:13:54] - User name: ThunderRd (Team 45) [04:13:54] - User ID: 69564AF90E834044 [04:13:54] - Machine ID: 2 [04:13:54] [04:13:54] Gpu type=3 species=20. [04:13:54] Work directory not found. Creating... [04:13:54] Could not open work queue, generating new queue... [04:13:54] - Preparing to get new work unit... [04:13:54] - Autosending finished units... [September 28 04:13:54 UTC] [04:13:54] Cleaning up work directory [04:13:54] Trying to send all finished work units [04:13:54] + No unsent completed units remaining. [04:13:54] - Autosend completed [04:13:54] + Attempting to get work packet [04:13:54] Passkey found [04:13:54] - Will indicate memory of 3958 MB [04:13:54] Gpu type=3 species=20. [04:13:54] - Detect CPU. Vendor: GenuineIntel, Family: 6, Model: 15, Stepping: 11 [04:13:54] - Connecting to assignment server [04:13:54] Connecting to http://assign-GPU.stanford.edu:8080/ [04:13:55] Posted data. [04:13:55] Initial: 43AB; - Successful: assigned to (171.67.108.142). [04:13:55] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home [04:13:55] Loaded queue successfully. [04:13:55] Gpu type=3 species=20. [04:13:55] Sent data [04:13:55] Connecting to http://171.67.108.142:8080/ [04:13:56] Posted data. [04:13:56] Initial: 0000; - Receiving payload (expected size: 146024) [04:13:59] - Downloaded at ~47 kB/s [04:13:59] - Averaged speed for that direction ~47 kB/s [04:13:59] + Received work. [04:13:59] + Closed connections [04:13:59] [04:13:59] + Processing work unit [04:13:59] Core required: FahCore_15.exe [04:13:59] Core not found. [04:13:59] - Core is not present or corrupted. [04:13:59] - Attempting to download new core... [04:13:59] + Downloading new core: FahCore_15.exe [04:13:59] Downloading core (/~pande/Win32/x86/NVIDIA/Fermi/Core_15.fah from www.stanford.edu) [04:14:00] Initial: AFDE; + 10240 bytes downloaded [04:14:00] Initial: B149; + 20480 bytes downloaded [04:14:00] Initial: F258; + 30720 bytes downloaded [04:14:01] Initial: 3445; + 40960 bytes downloaded [04:14:01] Initial: D51F; + 51200 bytes downloaded [04:14:01] Initial: 8320; + 61440 bytes downloaded [04:14:01] Initial: 6857; + 71680 bytes downloaded [04:14:01] Initial: 8B0D; + 81920 bytes downloaded [04:14:01] Initial: 5CC2; + 92160 bytes downloaded [04:14:01] Initial: 49D2; + 102400 bytes downloaded [04:14:02] Initial: 7422; + 112640 bytes downloaded [04:14:02] Initial: 1089; + 122880 bytes downloaded [04:14:02] Initial: 432F; + 133120 bytes downloaded [04:14:02] Initial: 269E; + 143360 bytes downloaded [04:14:03] Initial: 6958; + 153600 bytes downloaded [04:14:03] Initial: A0EA; + 163840 bytes downloaded [04:14:03] Initial: 28C4; + 174080 bytes downloaded [04:14:03] Initial: 4000; 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[04:14:45] Signature is VALID [04:14:45] [04:14:45] Trying to unzip core FahCore_15.exe [04:14:45] Decompressed FahCore_15.exe (4685824 bytes) successfully [04:14:50] + Core successfully engaged [04:14:55] [04:14:55] + Processing work unit [04:14:55] Core required: FahCore_15.exe [04:14:55] Core found. [04:14:55] Working on queue slot 01 [September 28 04:14:55 UTC] [04:14:55] + Working ... [04:14:55] - Calling '.\FahCore_15.exe -dir work/ -suffix 01 -nice 19 -checkpoint 15 -verbose -lifeline 8 -version 641' [04:14:55] [04:14:55] *------------------------------* [04:14:55] Folding@Home GPU Core [04:14:55] Version 2.22 (Thu Dec 8 17:08:05 PST 2011) [04:14:55] Build host SimbiosNvdWin7 [04:14:55] Board Type NVIDIA/CUDA [04:14:55] Core 15 [04:14:55] [04:14:55] Window's signal control handler registered. [04:14:55] Preparing to commence simulation [04:14:55] - Looking at optimizations... [04:14:55] DeleteFrameFiles: successfully deleted file=work/wudata_01.ckp [04:14:55] - Created dyn [04:14:55] - Files status OK [04:14:55] sizeof(CORE_PACKET_HDR) = 512 file=<> [04:14:55] - Expanded 145512 -> 660986 (decompressed 454.2 percent) [04:14:55] Called DecompressByteArray: compressed_data_size=145512 data_size=660986, decompressed_data_size=660986 diff=0 [04:14:55] - Digital signature verified [04:14:55] [04:14:55] Project: 8018 (Run 188, Clone 1, Gen 19) [04:14:55] [04:14:55] Assembly optimizations on if available. [04:14:55] Entering M.D. [04:14:57] Tpr hash work/wudata_01.tpr: 3881641966 1438356871 3674109899 46718772 505404043 [04:14:57] GPU device info: vendor=0 device=0 name=<NA> match=0 [04:14:57] Working on GRowing Old MAkes el Chrono Sweat [04:14:57] Client config found, loading data. [04:14:58] Starting GUI Server [04:16:00] Setting checkpoint frequency: 250000 [04:16:00] Completed 3 out of 25000000 steps (0%). I have posted in the Folding Community Forum, am waiting for assistance and will update as I progress.
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It is now working. I will try to get a short guide together but you will have to help me as I do not have a Mint install active, so my step-by-step will have to be tweaked.
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You write the best basic guide you can without having mint present, I'll follow in Mint 13 and take careful (pictorial) notes of any discripences. I think were on the same page here.":O} BTW Congratulations! Shouldn't the final product go up on front page...There must be quite a few waiting for this one...Yes?
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RL has been getting in the way of me accomplishing my mission here, but it is on my radar. For the record, it is still running and has had no problems.
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Good news on the "it works" Front! ":O} I'm sure you've noticed I've been all but overwhelmed with cool things to do. So no worries, when you find the time I'll make the time (Being retired has lots of advantages!) What kind of temps are you seeing? What card are you running?
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