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MrSeanKon 16th September, 2005 10:13 PM

Overclocking Bible: Post your comments/questions here!
 
This is the sixth thread for my freeware program.
It is a tool for any overclocker (novice/advanced) and any user (AMD/Intel).
You must install Microsoft Framework v3.5 if the program crashes.

Well OcBible is also supported in other forums also.
Some of them are:

OCAU (registration is required)
1) Support for OcBible and Guidemania
2) OcBible programming
3) CPU & RAM Stretcher

Ocforums
1) Support for OcBible and Guidemania
2) Support for OcBible programming


PcPer
1) Support for OcBible
2) OcBible programming
3) Questions for CPU & RAM Stretcher


XtremeSystems
1) Support for OcBible
2) Questions for CPU & RAM Stretcher --> MUST READ
3) OcBible programming
4) A64 o/c suggester
5) AMD CPU o/c analysis --> ΜUST READ


Check also my profiles at ABXzone and TechPowerUp! forums.
Guidemania support
OcBible programming
all at Aoaforums.

Regards,
MrSeanKon. :)

Pitch 17th September, 2005 06:23 AM

When overclocking, don't listen to a thing I say.

Rondog 17th September, 2005 07:19 AM

Why not? You always achieve high clocks.

Pitch 17th September, 2005 07:29 AM

High casuality rate too :D

MrSeanKon 17th September, 2005 12:48 PM

Very nice Pitch!
This package is for you!
As you can see it includes many programs OK needs time and practice but after a while you will not need my assistance! :thumbsup:
In addition current size is small < 1MB and self extracted. :)

Rondog 17th September, 2005 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitch
High casuality rate too :D

How many components have you killed now?

What has caused the death of your components?

What system are you currently running?

MrSeanKon 17th September, 2005 02:33 PM

I burned a 2500+ Barton two years ago cos I bumped Vcore to 2.1Volts...
Cooling was SLK 947U heatsink..
L2 became 64KB :evil: so Barton --> Duron...
But it was working OK for one month more and after this period I put it in garbage... :D

Pitch 17th September, 2005 03:24 PM

I lost count a while back, but I know I've killed a x800 and a x850. 2x P4's and a load of other items.

MrSeanKon 20th September, 2005 03:09 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Thanks Pitch for posting cos you gave the other side:
Overclocking is not something like gaming...
It is dangerous if you don't follow some basic steps....

AMD gain CPU speed estimator
As you can see my CPU burn-in guide at XtremeSystems after burn-in the current 939 3200+ Venice had MSF=2670 MHz with Vcore=1.663 (32M SuperPi).
Now it passed 2680 MHz!
Room temperature is six degrees lower!
That's why my CPU gained 1 MHz FSB!
Of course Vcore is the same. :)

Note:
This program based on same desktop CPUs (not mobiles).
See help file for more info.

Let's explore more what is going on...
Multiplier is 10X MSF was 2670 MHz and temperature (some days ago) 48C.
Note:
MSI monitor shows anything.
I measured CPU temperature using thermistor and it is 8-10C lower anyway I am bored to put always probe in heatspreader that's why these temps based on MSI's monitor.
The main parameter is temperature difference not the actual values. ;)
Temp now is 42C...
But as you can see the closest value for temperature is 41C (see second combobox).
Cheat program! :D
I edited value and I input 42! :D
Results:

Attachment 14650

The second region has 33% possibility but lower limit is 2663 MHz < 2670 MHz (initial MSF)..
That's why we refuse this area.
First area has 22% possibility and upper limit 2683 MHz (almost 2680 MHz) --> predicts OK regardless small possibility value.
Here is autumn and winter is coming...
Then ambient temperature will be eight degrees smaller (I keep notes for anything) :D so CPU temperature will be 42 - 8 = 34C.
If we estimate new MSF for Venice in winter fourth area shows 2708 - 2728 MHz --> +40 MHz gain at least.
But it is not impossible that first or second/third area can predict better than fourth regardless smaller possibilities. ;)
All possibilities are < 100.0% --> when an event has 100.0% possibility it occurs always.
I will see!
Note that the screen capture may differ than current version cos any new edition has new options, capabilities etc....

MrSeanKon 30th September, 2005 07:09 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Now I will show some data plots for AMD gains...
The photo shows all pairs..

Attachment 14651

Note that 4 points (see arrows) are away from others that's why I BANNED them from data modeling!
But I kept total samples = good samples + 4. ;)

Here is

Attachment 14652

the data modeling function (red color).
Green dashing curves are the upper and lower limits of each region.
As you can see 4 points are outside of areas (show arrows again).
Would you like 100% possibility?
OK it is easy!
But if program output "Estimated area is 2700 - 2800 MHz and possibility is 100%" is this useful? :D
That's why I keep estimated areas 2 - 4 * multiplier MHz for all estimators.

Toro 17th October, 2005 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rondog
How many components have you killed now?

What has caused the death of your components?

What system are you currently running?


he has killed too many to mention

pitch has caused the death of the components :)

dsio 18th October, 2005 01:48 AM

You know, I considered this to be pimping an amateur product the first few times I saw threads about it, but you have actually done something very special here.

Very impressive work indeed Mr.SeanKon!

Do you mind if I host it in the AOA Files section?

Gizmo 18th October, 2005 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsio
You know, I considered this to be pimping an amateur product the first few times I saw threads about it, but you have actually done something very special here.

Very impressive work indeed Mr.SeanKon!

Do you mind if I host it in the AOA Files section?

As a matter of fact, he and I have already discussed this, and he has given his permission. I just haven't had time to get to it (truth is, I completely forgot about it; I should have mentioned it to you). :o

dsio 18th October, 2005 03:40 AM

Will do it as soon as I get back from uni then!

Toro 18th October, 2005 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gizmo
As a matter of fact, he and I have already discussed this, and he has given his permission. I just haven't had time to get to it (truth is, I completely forgot about it; I should have mentioned it to you). :o

tsk, slackness

its a terrible thing! :)

overclocking now scares me. think i should leave it alone, I get too upset by financial loss these days :(

MrSeanKon 19th October, 2005 08:36 PM

I must thanks gizmo first cos I have bothered him :( with many pms and emails and although he is very busy he always replies. :)

dsio if you want to host current version of O/c Bible here in Aoaforums or everywhere you want it is not necessary to give you my permission you have it mate! :thumbsup:

Regards,
MrSeanKon. :)

dsio 20th October, 2005 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSeanKon
I must thanks gizmo first cos I have bothered him :( with many pms and emails and although he is very busy he always replies. :)

I personally don't consider pulling Tae Kwon Do moves in the mirror to be "Busy".

I'm putting it up right now. I'll PM you about it in a minute.

Gizmo 20th October, 2005 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsio
I personally don't consider pulling Tae Kwon Do moves in the mirror to be "Busy".

Oh, that was cold. :)

Logan 20th October, 2005 03:07 PM

Hahaha...that was awesome.

MrSeanKon 21st October, 2005 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rondog
What has caused the death of your components?

For my dead Barton 2500+ :D the high Vcore!

surlyjoe 13th November, 2005 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitch
I lost count a while back, but I know I've killed a x800 and a x850. 2x P4's and a load of other items.

Your my hero pitch! since you've come along I don't feel compelled to kill off all my expensive hardware anymore... Thanx buddy! :rolling:

Daniel ~ 13th November, 2005 09:32 PM

I think we just witnessed the passing of the torch(ed)!

MrSeanKon 15th December, 2005 04:36 PM

5 Attachment(s)
Let's play with System Reporter.
It is a useful program cos you monitor the swap file (or pagefile) % usage.
How you can change the swap file size??
Follow the photos:

Attachment 19083

Attachment 19084

Attachment 19085

My current setting is 128 MB:

Attachment 19087

LOOOOOOOOOOL Windows XP Task Manager shows a different value but System Reporter the actual:

Attachment 19088

Pitch 15th December, 2005 04:40 PM

Alot of in depth work there, I'm glad someone has taken the oppotunity to give people who are new to overclocking, but serious, some info to read and take in. All too often people just delve in without any forward planning or much idea on what they are doing, which... although fun, is expensive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by surlyjoe
Your my hero pitch! since you've come along I don't feel compelled to kill off all my expensive hardware anymore... Thanx buddy!

I think I've killed my system 3 times over. The only thing that isn't dead yet is my Raptors, Probably because I can't overclock them... yet :evil:

Daniel ~ 15th December, 2005 07:52 PM

I explained all this to you Pitch!
"Those God would use, first he tests!"

He's just a bit busy right now and late getting the grades out! ":O}

MrSeanKon 20th December, 2005 06:22 PM

Up this moment no question for this software?? :rolleyes:
Thanks! :evil:
Cos I am too busy so I cannot support (hope in the future to have more free time) this package in abroad forums...
To inform you again I uploaded my two English o/c guides at Pathfinder (available for anyone no passwords etc required)......

Merry Xmas and happy new year to everyone I am leaving on Thursday again! :cool:
Relax RULEZ!

dsio 27th February, 2006 10:10 AM

Its up now mate.

Here is the page its on: http://files.aoaforums.com/index.php?dir=316

I don't remove old versions, more for archival reasons and as a record of how many downloads there are, however I labeled them, and I can keep updating it to current for the new version, and old for the old versions.

Here is the direct link to the file: http://files.aoaforums.com/code.php?file=2661

If you want to list AOA as a mirror for it, thats all fine with us mate.

I really like what you're doing, and it really is an essential bit of kit for beginner and intermediate overclockers alike. Keep it going mate.

chrisbard 27th February, 2006 11:19 AM

Necro !!!

Oh...how I wanted to do this :rolling:

Got EpOx 27th February, 2006 07:25 PM

Quite a nice guide thank you MrSeanKon .

MrSeanKon 18th July, 2006 11:45 AM

The first multilanguage version is available!
 
OK dsio as you wish!

Dear users,
Well the new innovation of this program is the multilanguage support!
The version 1.47 supports 30 different languages!
Greek, English, German, French, Italian, Spanish, Croatian, Romaniam, Portuguese etc......
Moreover two forms plot functions!
In addition you can save your data!

Enjoy!!!! :)

MrSeanKon 6th November, 2006 08:17 AM

The last version for this year is uploaded at Aoaforums section.
Wait until dsio moves the file; don't download the old v1.48.
v1.50 will be available on next year.

dsio 6th November, 2006 01:48 PM

Linky Linky

http://files.aoaforums.com/I2630-01_...v1.49.exe.html

MrSeanKon 22nd November, 2006 09:37 AM

DON'T use the number 2310.2003 in Mathematical forms such as Data Modeling, Multiple plots and Variation analysis.
It is beyond of my scope to explain why cos I must post parts of source code.
Thus the number is reserved.
Why I chose this number?
23/10/2003 is the celebration date of OcBible.

Daniel ~ 6th December, 2006 08:46 PM

About time this was stickied. Nice work MrSeanKon!

MrSeanKon 7th December, 2006 10:38 AM

Thanks Daniel~
 
for sticky!
Well I must edit some previous posts and add tutorials/other stuff.
BTW I will upload some parts of source code just to show you how it works.

Gizmo 13th December, 2006 05:37 PM

I've created a new section for all of the OC Bible stuff in AOAFiles. You can go here and get everything related to OC Bible in one place. All of the existing links to the files still work, all I've done is put the files into their own directory.

Gizmo 13th December, 2006 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSeanKon
Download the file if:
1) You run the mathematical programs (Data Modeling, Variation Analysis and Multiple Plots).
2) You use System Reporter.

DON'T REMOVE the v1.49 from your hard disk this patch IS NOT a complete version.

Thanks, thanks (million times) dsio! :)

You can download the patch from AOAFiles, here

MrSeanKon 15th December, 2006 08:31 AM

Thanks again gizmo!
 
2 Attachment(s)
Every time when I surf I always check the hits and I saw the new folder.
WOW new look!
It is better now :)

Let's continue...
Every time when you install a new version or a patch you must create a new different folder don't :drink: copy different dlls etc everywhere.
Here is a sample of my directories:

Attachment 19220

The version 1.50 has a different look:

Attachment 19221

MrSeanKon 3rd January, 2007 08:23 AM

1 Attachment(s)
As you see it is quite different ;)
Many *.exe files (the mouse pointer shows you the main file) which is the interfaces written and designed by me.
;) ;) Are you a programmer????
Then make the interface for your needs!!!
Here is a sample of code:

Here is a C# sample code

Code:

using System;
using System.Drawing;
using System.Collections;
using System.ComponentModel;
using System.Windows.Forms;
using System.Data;
using System.Diagnostics;

namespace OcBible_interface
{
        public class Main_form : System.Windows.Forms.Form
        {
                private System.Windows.Forms.Button button1;
                private System.Windows.Forms.Button button2;
                private System.Windows.Forms.Button button3;
                private System.ComponentModel.Container components = null;

                public Main_form()
                {
                        InitializeComponent();
                }
                protected override void Dispose( bool disposing )
                {
                        if( disposing )
                        {
                                if (components != null)
                                {
                                        components.Dispose();
                                }
                        }
                        base.Dispose( disposing );
                }

                #region Windows Form Designer generated code
                private void InitializeComponent()
                {
                        this.button1 = new System.Windows.Forms.Button();
                        this.button2 = new System.Windows.Forms.Button();
                        this.button3 = new System.Windows.Forms.Button();
                        this.SuspendLayout();
                        //
                        // button1
                        //
                        this.button1.FlatStyle = System.Windows.Forms.FlatStyle.System;
                        this.button1.Location = new System.Drawing.Point(88, 40);
                        this.button1.Name = "button1";
                        this.button1.TabIndex = 0;
                        this.button1.Text = "button1";
                        this.button1.Click += new System.EventHandler(this.button1_Click);
                        this.button1.MouseUp += new System.Windows.Forms.MouseEventHandler(this.button1_MouseUp);
                        this.button1.MouseDown += new System.Windows.Forms.MouseEventHandler(this.button1_MouseDown);
                        //
                        // button2
                        //
                        this.button2.FlatStyle = System.Windows.Forms.FlatStyle.System;
                        this.button2.Location = new System.Drawing.Point(88, 104);
                        this.button2.Name = "button2";
                        this.button2.TabIndex = 1;
                        this.button2.Text = "button2";
                        this.button2.Click += new System.EventHandler(this.button2_Click);
                        //
                        // button3
                        //
                        this.button3.FlatStyle = System.Windows.Forms.FlatStyle.System;
                        this.button3.Location = new System.Drawing.Point(88, 168);
                        this.button3.Name = "button3";
                        this.button3.TabIndex = 2;
                        this.button3.Text = "button3";
                        this.button3.Click += new System.EventHandler(this.button3_Click);
                        //
                        // Main_form
                        //
                        this.AutoScaleBaseSize = new System.Drawing.Size(5, 13);
                        this.ClientSize = new System.Drawing.Size(258, 216);
                        this.Controls.Add(this.button3);
                        this.Controls.Add(this.button2);
                        this.Controls.Add(this.button1);
                        this.FormBorderStyle = System.Windows.Forms.FormBorderStyle.FixedDialog;
                        this.MaximizeBox = false;
                        this.MinimizeBox = false;
                        this.Name = "Main_form";
                        this.Text = "Welcome to Overclocking Bible!";
                        this.ResumeLayout(false);

                }
                #endregion

                [STAThread]
                static void Main()
                {
                        Application.EnableVisualStyles();
                        Application.Run(new Main_form());
                }

                private void button1_Click(object sender, System.EventArgs e)
                {
                        System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(100);
                        try
                        {
                                Process myProcess = Process.Start("Oc analyzer exponents.exe");
                        }
                        catch
                        {
                                MessageBox.Show("Required file is missing!","Re-install the program!",MessageBoxButtons.OK,MessageBoxIcon.Error);
                        }
                }
                private void button1_MouseDown(object sender, System.Windows.Forms.MouseEventArgs e)
                {
                        button1.Top++;
                        button1.Left++;
                }
                private void button1_MouseUp(object sender, System.Windows.Forms.MouseEventArgs e)
                {
                        button1.Top--;
                        button1.Left--;
                }

                private void button2_Click(object sender, System.EventArgs e)
                {
                        System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(100);
                        try
                        {
                                Process myProcess = Process.Start("A64 suggester.exe");
                        }
                        catch
                        {
                                MessageBox.Show("Required file is missing!","Don't ZZZ!",MessageBoxButtons.OK,MessageBoxIcon.Error);
                        }
                }

                private void button3_Click(object sender, System.EventArgs e)
                {
                        System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(100);
                        try
                        {
                                Process myProcess = Process.Start("CPU Stretcher.exe");
                        }
                        catch
                        {
                                MessageBox.Show("Required file is missing!","GKR WAKE UP!",MessageBoxButtons.OK,MessageBoxIcon.Error);
                        }
                }
        }
}

which makes this interface:

Attachment 19222

Pressing on button3 icon (focus the Windows Visual styles) CPU Stretcher will open.

Enjoy! :)

dsio 3rd January, 2007 08:56 AM

MrSeanKon, the latest version is up, and its at the top of your OCBible page on AOAFiles.com

http://files.aoaforums.com/index.php?dir=316

For the direct link to the file: http://files.aoaforums.com/I2661-001...v1.50.exe.html


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