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Old 17th February, 2002, 03:47 PM
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Thoughts on Increasing speed

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Date: Sat Feb 16, 2002 1:09 pm
Subject: Thoughts on Increasing speed

Michael from F@H... here,

So, a few comments. For compilers, we're using intel fortran for both Windows
and Linux (for our work, I've been timing the intel faster than g77 0-30%
depending on the identity of the work unit). Last I checked (I haven't looked
at it in a while) Windows was about 20-30% faster than Linux - maybe that's
changed since we've changed the work units a bit.

For Macs, we've found that g77 is really poor, and we're using f2c, and then
compiling in C. That makes things work better, but it's still a bit slower - I
haven't been doing the tests, so I don't know the exact numbers - I'll try to
find out, it's about time to do an extensive speed comparison test again.

We've experimented with vectorizing the code using AltiVec and SSE/SSE2 and
OpenMP, but we have not been able to get any appreiciable speedup. First, we
use double precision floats, which parallelize much worse than single precision
floats (SSE, to my understanding, doesn't work with doubles at all, SSE2 can
only parallelize 2 doubles, as opposed to 4 floats - and I don't know much
about AltiVec). Second, the code does not lend itself to parallelization very
well - it's hard to get the conditionals out of the inner loops.

A single simulation is not as easily parallelizable as one might think. True,
you can divide up the atoms into seperate groups - but what counts is the
forces that are BETWEEN all the atoms - so the atoms need to communicate with
each other. There are clever ways of doing this, but it takes very fast
communication, and parallelizes to max 10-20 processors in a supercomputer -
but supercomputers are expensive to use, and not very common.

Since protein folding at any given time depends on what happened at previous
times, it's not trivially parallelizable beyond that. One of the breakthroughs
of F@H... is that our algorithms recognize that in many situations, you can get
folded trajectories by running many parallel simulations. That's the
breakthrough that makes protein folding work for distributed computing, but
it's still more complicated than just a bunch of batch jobs.

Michael Shirts
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Old 17th February, 2002, 05:16 PM
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